SmartStrand Challenge

On August 14, 2009, SmartStrand took on a 2800 pound challenge…his name is Ricko and he lives at the Birmingham Zoo.  2800 pounds of black rhino, living, eating and – well you know – on SmartStrand for 14 days.  Typically Ricko is a fan of hard surface and not carpet, but it seems like he might be changing his tune.  I’ve been in this industry for nearly 17 years and I have never seen a carpeting put to a test like this. 

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333 responses to this post.

  1. Posted by Chris on September 8, 2009 at 7:43 pm

    Hi, I’m from Pittsburgh PA, have looked at Home Depot’s SmartStrand…
    I am matching Sherwin Williams paint – Whole Wheat & Divine White & Believable Buff. These are brownish/ goldish colors.

    I like three colors in the SmartStrand- Maple Silk Sandcastle & Woodcarving.
    Esp. like Sandcastle.
    I need to stay away from anything pinky or taupey, also don’t want a grey…
    Just a nice off white..

    Any advice? Esp if you know of one of these light neutrals being esp. popular, or used in model homes….


  2. Posted by CarpetGirl on September 9, 2009 at 5:53 pm

    Chris –

    Without seeing the Home Depot sample for myself, I can’t provide much help unfortunately. I would however, take a sample home to see the color in your own space. Home Depot typically has those available if the one you are interested in has not already been checked out.

    I would not be concerned about doing an exact match and would definitely stay more in the beige family than the gold. If (when) your color taste changes, you do not want to be in a position where your new favorite color clashes with the carpet!


  3. Posted by dancingqueen on September 29, 2009 at 2:29 am

    I don’t know if I am doing this right. I found a smartstrand Horizion Intelligent Style for $5.40 sf. Will this do well in a family room? How about on stairs. Is there another type that would be better. I LOVE how soft it is.
    Does the company send bigger samples? I’ve got the board with the 3 inch sample of colors and it’s HARD to tell how they would look.


  4. Posted by CarpetGirl on September 29, 2009 at 12:26 pm

    Good choice. Remember that stairs are tough for any carpeting – Intelligent Style is a fine choice all around and a relatively new style. As for larger samples. This style is part of a colorwall system that houses 6″x6″ samples – so you can either ask your retailer for one or have him request one be sent to you. You might be able to get one directly from Mohawk as well, but if your retailer already has one, it will shorten the wait for you.


  5. I’ve got Smartstand South Padre (Cabana) in my bonus room and LOVE it! However, I can see the seams in a couple of places, even though the carpet installers have come out twice. They trimmed it a little and rolled it with that spiky roller tool they have. They said there is no overlapping of the carpet pieces and it seems to be put together well. I did have them put duct tape over the 9 lb. carpet pad seams (per your suggestion) and I wondered if that made for bulkier looking seams? The installer also said they used the larger seaming tape (I guess wider?) since it was a 51 oz. carpet. The installer talked to his Mohawk rep and they said they could not guarantee that seams would be invisible. So, is this just a part of the normal process or is something wrong?? I probably am the only one who would notice it since I know where to look but just wondered what your thoughts are on this??

  6. Posted by CarpetGirl on October 8, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    Hey Amy,

    I have some of the same issues in my own house and I am in the business! Seams can be tricky but with what you are telling me – it sounds like your installer knew what they were doing. You could be overly sensitive to it and no one else will notice it, but it’s still annoying. With that product, it really should be able to hide any seaming sins. It is quite possible that it simply needs to settle in a little. Another option is to hit it with a little steam. I have heard of that helping seams marry up. Your installer might be able to help you with that or maybe you can rent a steamer…please don’t use an iron set on steam – odds are you will melt the fibers by getting it too close.

    One question is how the carpet was run – directionally. Seams should run in the direction of the light coming into the room…so if you have a wall with windows, the carpet seam should be perpendicular to those windows so that it is running with the light and no shadows can be created. Shadows can make seams more visible. If the carpet was laid in the opposite direction, you’ll have to decide how much those seams bother you – because it will require a reinstall and probably more carpet. I don’t think your installer will eat that cost.

    Hope this helped at least a little….CG

  7. My carpet seam is perpendicular to the wall of windows and so that part was done correctly. The seam is most visible though behind a chair where it is more shadowy. And, also in a smaller section next to the stairs where there is less light. I definitely do notice the seams more in low light. I have already had the carpet partially steam cleaned even though we just got it installed in July because my toddler decided to smear poo all over it. Of course, it being Smartstrand, it came right up! I can’t tell a difference in how much I notice the seams before versus after the cleaning though. It seems about the same. I think the installers just feel like I’m being particular because they seem to think it looks like a good seam to them and the installer has been doing this for 18 years. Maybe it is just me?

  8. Posted by sleeplessinla on October 20, 2009 at 3:31 am

    hi carpetgirl,
    i have been reading your posts here and on gardenweb and could use your help. we live in los angeles and i am having a hard time finding sonora carpet, even at mohawk dealers here. i was trying to tell a carpet one sales person that they have it under the lee name but she really didn’t know what i was talking about. do you know what brand/type carpet one carries this carpet under? i have not yet been to home depot and will try that next. if i am succesful, wondering what color/style you would recommend for a staircase and bedrooms. our paint colors are shades of grey and most carpets seem to be more beige. i would love any guideance. the one sample of carpet i do have is a shaw nylon with r2x. what are your thoughts about this?

  9. Posted by CarpetGirl on October 20, 2009 at 12:59 pm

    Hope this isn’t what is making you sleepless! I am surprised you have been unable to find Sorona in your marketplace. We have a great presence in the LA area. The line available to any dealer is HORIZON by Mohawk…Floorscapes dealers – which are those primarily selling Mohawk products will not have Horizon, they are simply Floorscapes. I recommend trying a Floorscapes dealer first, always Not sure where Lee came from.

    Try this for me please, since LA is big and I don’t know exactly where you are. Visit and use the dealer locator – do register/sign in as a first time user…what this step will do is connect you – the product you like – and the dealer you choose in your area. So that when you go to the product gallery and choose a SmartStrand with DuPont Sorona style and print out a swatch page – you’ll have the dealer info as well. The system knows what each dealer carries, but do give the dealer a call to confirm that they do indeed carry SmartStrand with DuPont Sorona.

    As for colors and such…beige is king BUT there are typically pretty decent selections of gray and gray variations as well. The depth of shade will depend mostly on your needs – if you have a family with smaller children, I go darker for soiling reasons…if it is just one or two of you, lighter is fine. On stairs – patterns/loops can be tough to wrap over the treads at times with the backing showing through on some styles. Whatever sample you like best. Bend it 90 degrees or so – if you can see the backing – you might not love it on the stairs. Typically not an issue with cut piles unless they are really light weight.

    Nylon is a good option but do keep in mind that the treatment – in this case the company’s R2X formula – will wear off with either traffic or cleanings. You can retreat after cleanings but it is not as good as a factory application. Actually I think Shaw requires retreatment with DuPont Teflon – check their warranty brochure. The Sorona product has no topical treatment so there is nothing to wear off and no reason to ever retreat. I’ve seen demos where they float the carpet to show repellancy – which is kinda cool, but I have never seen it done after a year in the house or a cleaning. It’d sink like a rock.

    Let me know if you have any issues with the website. Good luck!!


  10. Posted by sleeplessinla on October 21, 2009 at 6:03 am

    thanks for this. i will go to the website and look for delears in my area. we have three small kids. i don’t mind going dark. really clueless about carpet and wondering what style/type you’d recommend for us. small kids, stairs, grey paints. also, how think a pad would you suggest.
    thanks so much.

  11. Posted by CarpetGirl on October 21, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    It you go with SmartStrand – any style will work. I have heard that it is easy to lose Legos in shags so keep that in mind:)

    The pad thickness will depend on the style you choose…patterns and loops for example would require a slightly less thick pad. I like 7/16-1/2″ for cut piles. Density wise – I prefer 10 lb but 8 lb is perfectly fine. If you have not read it in another thread, I do recommend a moisture barrier pad. Having this will prevent any spills from getting to your subfloor before you can get it cleaned up.

  12. Posted by sleeplessinla on October 23, 2009 at 2:19 am

    hi carpetgirl,
    thanks for your quick and thoughtful replies. i did find a showroom here with lots of samples. we are leaning towards sunny isle in the color conch (108). is this durable enough for our needs. we were thinking of going with an 8 lb moisture barrier pad. how does that sound. what we like about the carpet are they grey flecks and the numerous colors. we also like the frieze. i guess i am looking either for your blessing on this or whether you think we should be considering something else. we were quoted approx $2800 for 91 sq yards installed with the pad. does that sound right?

  13. Posted by CarpetGirl on October 23, 2009 at 8:13 pm

    I think you have a great choice for your needs. Flecks are popular and stylish so you can’t go wrong there. 8lb with moisture barrier is great and the price sounds reasonable to me.

    After you get it down – please remember to have it professionally steam cleaned every 12 months or so – even if it doesn’t look dirty to you. The cleanings actually help your carpet from a durability standpoint as well as the soil and stain. The steam actaully revitalizes the fibers that you walk on.

    Would love to know which store you visited too.

    Good luck!

  14. Posted by sleeplessinla on October 23, 2009 at 10:18 pm

    hi cg,
    visited carpet usa in culver city. purchasing through alpine carpet one, which didn’t carry it but tracked it down through their mohawk rep. salesperson there had already measured our house and let my three kids tear apart their showroom so i felt loyal. they do carry some sorona under a different name (lee’s not mohawk) but didn’t have much on display. really had to hunt for it. carpet usa not unhelpful but not super interested in me either. you of course, have been the biggest help of all. thanks for everything.

  15. We are buying 65 oz smartstrand plush or frieze carpet. The installer says the 8 lb will make the carpet too hard over the 6 lb. We have dogs and want the moisture barrier in the 8 lb over our cement floors.
    I have never heard of being too hard. What do you think?
    Thank You

  16. Posted by CarpetGirl on November 2, 2009 at 1:16 am

    I haven’t but it could be true…maybe. I would think if you had a 1/2″ 8lb pad, that you’d be just fine. I have 10 pound over my concrete and it feels great.


  17. Posted by sleeplessinla on November 2, 2009 at 2:58 am

    hi cg,
    hoping you can confirm something for me. we selected sunny isle in conch. our alpine salesperson gave us a sample for schooner wharf in shell beige and tells us they are the same thing. we are not convinced. can you tell us? mainly don’t want to pay a higher price for a lesser carpet. plus the colors look a bit different to us.
    thanks so much.

  18. Posted by CarpetGirl on November 5, 2009 at 2:32 pm

    Sleepless –

    They are the same.  You should be juts fine.


  19. Posted by Kathy on November 8, 2009 at 2:56 am

    Hi CG! Love Smartstrand but am really confused! I have been dealing with a company who sells the product but have been unable to find the right color….. I went to Home Depot and there was Smartstrand Sorona, Silk style and the perfect color Mineral Beige!!! I want to contiue dealing with my company but need to know if there are other names and styles where I can find this carpet. I have been searching for about 3 weeks now and finally found it!! Help! please 🙂

  20. Posted by enaxor on November 28, 2009 at 11:10 pm


    We just had our whole house re-carpeted with Smartstrand Beach Basics in Corkboard. I love this carpet! It’s amazingly soft and a joy to walk, sit, and lay on. I need to know what type of vacuum to use that will not breakdown the frieze strands. Is there one that Mohawk recommends and are there ones to stay away from that will void any warranties? I hope you answer quickly, I need to vacuum. 😉 Thanks for you time.

  21. Posted by CarpetGirl on December 8, 2009 at 11:01 pm

    Sorry for the late response…check for approved vacuums, but we don’t have any we specifically recommend. Just make sure you run it high enough that the tufts do not get caught in the beater bar…that’s really about all you need to do.

    Enjoy the new carpet!:)


  22. Posted by enaxor on December 9, 2009 at 3:52 pm

    Thank you so much for your response!

  23. Posted by Sheenameena on January 28, 2010 at 3:26 am

    I’m about to purchase the smartstrand Posh Origins style. The warranty is great as well, but I was told by the company we are purchasing it from that the warranty is null and void if you do not have proof of getting it professionally steam cleaned every 18 months. Is this true?

  24. Posted by Sheenameena on January 28, 2010 at 3:43 am

    Please disregard my previous question. I found the warranty online and it is true.

  25. Posted by CarpetGirl on January 30, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    Glad you found what you were looking for. Proper maintenance is vital for the carpet to keep its appearance. Not just for soil and stains but for the texture and the prevention of traffic patterns. The steam in the cleaning process literally revitalizes the fibers and will keep your carpet looking newer longer.


  26. Posted by Patricia Disbrow on February 1, 2010 at 5:02 pm

    I tried to order Smart Strand Silk from Home Depot and they were unable to put the order through. I contacted Mohawk and got this response:

    Unfortunately the Home Depot style “Silk” has been discontinued.
    There is a comparable product in the Horizon Collection, “Intelligent Style”.

    I have yet to check this style out and I hope it has the soft feel of the Silk Style.

  27. Posted by CarpetGirl on February 5, 2010 at 8:54 pm

    Patricia –

    Silk was a limited time only product for the Home Depot. It actually lived a lot longer than it was intended. The intelligent styles are great – no worries.


  28. Posted by Patricia Disbrow on February 5, 2010 at 9:10 pm

    I found the same exact carpet as Silk under the (Horizons) Intelligent Style group name at a smaller dealer. It is is exactly the same carpet but of course…costs more. I’m just happy to be able to get what I truly wanted.

  29. Posted by Lynne on February 5, 2010 at 10:48 pm

    Carpetgirl, I want the very best Smartstrand carpet made and price is no object. What would you recommend? I cannot seem to find a salesperson who knows the answer. Or at least, every store I go to tells me something else. I mean it when I say that price is no object. It’s a very small area and I want the very best, thickest, softest, but not necessarily the highest pile.

  30. Posted by CarpetGirl on February 7, 2010 at 7:22 pm

    Lynne –

    I’d be surprised if a salesperson could answer the question. Since there are multiple looks and styles and color is so important, it’s impossible for me to tell you which carpet is perfect for you when I know nothing about your tastes or preferences. The heaviest styles we have will be in Karastan….Coastal Elegance (think it is 70 or 80 ounces) and Mamma Mia (95 ounces!!). Mamma Mia is the heaviest we make. You will have to decide how high a pile you like…again pile changes the look so much.

    You really just need to put your hands on it and find one you love. The performance will be there regardless so it is really just aesthetics and feel at this point.

    Good luck with your choice – CG

  31. Posted by Lynne on February 7, 2010 at 8:14 pm

    Carpetgirl, from reading your other things I kinda moved away from Karastan because it wasn’t made the same as the Mohawk smartstrand. Maybe I’m wrong but I thought you told someone that Smartstrand was better on traffic. So, I want something better on traffic and I have a dog who might mess it up too some. I’m thinking of going the with the moisture barrier cushion you mentioned earlier. A 10lb cushion is good, right? Or will it be too soft? My daddy has a walker and I don’t want him to find it incredibly difficult to walk.

    I also noticed that some stores had BCF 3GT Polyester with DuPont Renewably Sourced Polymer, others had BCF Triexta, and others had BCF Triexta made with DuPont Sorona Renewably sourced polymer. Are each of these designations for different types of carpet or are they just different names for the same thing? If they are different, which one do you prefer? I want the best for traffic, softness, and stain proof. I also love helping the environment the most if that is the only difference.

  32. Posted by CarpetGirl on February 7, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    No Lynne – Karastan is a division of Mohawk. This might get a little complicated…but Karastan and Mohawk are carpet brands, SmartStrand Sorona is a FIBER brand. Mohawk makes the fiber and multiple brands use it. So what I pointed you to is a SmartStrand Sorona product under the Karastan brand – you will see the SS name on the carpet label. So traffic is covered.

    A 10 pound will be fine for the carpet – have the retailer/installer recommend a thickness for the type of carpet you choose. 10 pound is density so it is actually a good thing to have a higher number – the thickness gives you the “cushion”. I do not think the pad will cause a problem for the walker – the thickness of the carpet could. I would think a denser carpet – with less flow – would be easier to navigate, but it does take away some of the softness you seem to want. And make sure that the installer uses a power stretcher and not simply a knee kicker to install it. Without that step you could see wrinkles over time.

    There are so many different verbiages because of a recent government ruling…Triexta is a new classification for the fiber system. The federal trade commission mandates that their names be used on labels – so that is why polyester was on there before – it has now been replaced by Triexta. The ruling body made the new class because the performance was so much better than polyester. The more recent addtions have triexta, ones before the ruling still say polyester. If you see DuPont Sorona on it, that is the renewably sourced one that is 37% corn sugar based. The Triexta is essentially unbranded – chemically it is the same and the performance is the same but it does not have the eco element. You will find more styling and colors in Sorona styles as well as heavier weights. I am personally happy with either, but I am a fan of the renewable content.

    Sorry for the info overload:)


  33. Posted by Lynne on February 7, 2010 at 8:59 pm

    You didn’t overload me at all. I am incredibly appreciative. So, I need to make sure it has Sorona on the label because I want to ensure it is good for the environment. Now, that I have decided that, I would assume if I want a very, very good carpet then I need to look at Karastan because it is the top of the line. The next thing I need to decide is the density, which I believe you say is more important than weight. I want it to be dense but still good with pets. My understanding is that the twist won’t be as important if I go with a dense carpet. Am I on the right track now?
    Since I’m looking at beige colors I can find the color I like in just about anything. Color will be my last decision.
    As far as pile goes, I don’t want something to look too wormy looking or too much like the old shags of yesteryear. I realize that the maintenance on these new shaggier styles isn’t what it used to be and I also understand that they wear much better. But, I also want something stylish and newer than what I have now. This will just be in the bedroom. So, I guess that decision will be made as I’m looking at colors.

  34. Posted by CarpetGirl on February 7, 2010 at 9:59 pm

    Twist is very important, but twist without good density will fall flat on its sides. The twist levels in all the Sorona products (Karastan or Horizon) are good. Wouldn’t worry there. (Density is more important than weight)

    I’m a huge shag fan but that is a taste thing. Sounds like you need what I call a near Frieze…it has good twist and some buckling but not really wormy. Helps it stay soft too.

    Luck – CG

  35. Posted by Lynne on February 7, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    What about thickness of the cushion? How thick should I go there?

  36. Posted by CarpetGirl on February 7, 2010 at 11:17 pm

    Totally dependant on the style of carpet you choose…your retailer will point you in the right direction there. Express your concerns about the walker as well, just in case.


  37. Posted by amw on February 12, 2010 at 6:23 am

    We are looking at smartstrand but am a little confused by the information provided at stores, online and the mohawk website. Is the Aladdin Easychoice line Elite carpet that says smartstrand PPT the same as smartstrand dupont sorona? The Aladdin doesn’t say anywhere dupont sorona so we don’t know if we are getting the same quality as the sorona.

  38. Posted by CarpetGirl on February 12, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    They are not the same thing. Aladdin has a collection of more entry level styles – lighter weights, fewer colors, no loops. The performance of PTT/Triexta vs Sorona is the same – it’ll be soft, resist stains beautifully, and be durable – but it does not have the corn sugar component – so no Eco-Story. We recognize that that piece is not as important for some and cost can be an issue as well – hence the unbranded line in Aladdin. If you find an Aladdin you like, I think you will still be very, very pleased with your choice!


  39. Posted by amw on February 12, 2010 at 6:58 pm

    Thank you CG that helps, with 4 kids under 8 will the Alladin level be a good choice for high traffic areas, stairs etc or would it be better to go up to the sorona line. We are comparing the Aladdin front runner and the sorona organic luxury or artful insight. None of them have data on them, so we are going by look and feel right now. Thanks again for the advice.

  40. Posted by CarpetGirl on February 14, 2010 at 10:49 pm

    Thought I could reply straight from email, but I guess not! You’ll be fine. No problem.


  41. Posted by TakeCareNow on February 17, 2010 at 4:16 am

    In the GardenWeb Forum about a year ago, you mentioned that Horizon’s Sunset Pier & La Concha (its lighterweight counterpart) were really cable style carpets even though Mohawk officially classifies them as friezes. From what I’ve read, cable carpets aren’t too good for heavily trafficked areas or on stairs. Do you feel that’s true about Sunset Pier, the heavier of the two mentioned? I’m trying to find the best Mohawk Elite Smartstrand frieze with not too many flecks/speckles. Nothing seems to fit the bill so far.

    Thanks for your honest opinion.

  42. Posted by CarpetGirl on February 17, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    TCN –

    Cables are typically not my favorite for areas that you would consider high traffic – since these two are somewhere in between a cable and a frieze they’re good, but I would recommend a frieze if you consider the area high traffic. I know the SmartStrand Sorona line in Horizon has quite a few solid color friezes in it. Try to find a store that has the new colorwall. Those products have solids and flecks.


  43. Posted by Adam on February 17, 2010 at 11:20 pm

    CG, been looking through your posts and like your responses. I will be purchasing SmartStrand frieze carpet but how do I compare prices to other companies when no one ever goes by the same product ID’s or names? My Style says IG24 Valuable Solution my Color 849 Fresh Cork and PILE is 100% SmarsStrand BCF Triexta. I have been quoted $3 sq/ft for 8lb pad, carpet, carpet removal and installation. I think this is a good deal but dont want to buy w/out comparing. Any help would be appreciated. I am carpeting about 1300 sq/ft.


  44. Posted by TakeCareNow on February 18, 2010 at 2:46 am

    Thanks, we’ll try to find the new colorwall. Next question – we asked our salesman about installing a moisture barrier pad since we have dogs. He didn’t recommend it but didn’t refuse either; he uses an 8# pad. He said that the moisture would just spread out onto a larger surface area under the carpet since it had no where else to go. What’s your opinion about moisture barrier pads generally & about the Odor Eaters carpet pad specifically?

  45. Posted by Lynne on February 18, 2010 at 3:00 am

    Thanks so much CG. I have decided on Coastal Elegance with a 10 pound moisture barrier cushion. It’s beautiful and very, very soft. I can’t wait for it to be installed. It’s not too late to change, however. Do you think the pad will be fine?

  46. Posted by Fran on February 24, 2010 at 7:15 pm

    Are there different qualities of Smart Strand carpet by Mohawk?

    I have visited 3 dealers in my town and the names or color names don’t match each other.

    The Mohawk website did not have Posh Origins style listed. Please help.


  47. Posted by Patricia Disbrow on February 24, 2010 at 8:00 pm

    Posh Origins in one store in my town was the same as Intelligent Styly in another store. Just different names but the same product.

  48. Posted by CarpetGirl on February 24, 2010 at 8:12 pm

    Dealers have different styles depending on what kind of dealer they are. Odds are you are visiting different types of dealers each time and don’t realize it… a Floorscapes, ColorCenter, Horizon or even CarpetsPlus will have different names. Posh will only show up online if you choose a Floorscapes dealer as your retailer. Otherwise – look for intellegent style under Horizon.


  49. Posted by TakeCareNow on February 25, 2010 at 1:00 am

    We asked our salesman about installing a moisture barrier pad since we have 2 dogs. He didn’t recommend it but didn’t refuse either; he uses an 8# pad. He said that the moisture would just spread out onto a larger surface area under the carpet & soak up into the carpet backing since it had no where else to go. What’s your opinion about moisture barrier pads in generay & about the Odor Eaters carpet pad specifically?

  50. Posted by CarpetGirl on February 25, 2010 at 9:45 pm

    Again I thought my reply directly from email went through…UGH. Sorry for the delay.

    I am a moisture barrier fan, not doubt. Your salesman’s logic does not hold water with me…pardon the pun. If you don’t have a moisture barrier the liquid will go down…down to settle on your subfloor. Subfloors are typically wood. Wood and moisture are a no-no! That is when mold and mildew become an issue. If you keep the liquid up – you can remove it. I would rather have it spread and be able to remove it, than wonder what is growing down under. Odor Eaters is fine…but if you can clean a stain – even pet urine – why would you need it? Seems only applicable to those carpets that are hard to clean, not SmartStrand.

    Again – sorry so slow…wasn’t ignoring you – honestly thought I had replied!


  51. Posted by CarpetGirl on March 1, 2010 at 3:12 pm

    Adam –

    Retailers have private labels. I realize it is annoying when you want to comparision shop but different types of dealers get different color lines, styles and merchandising. The style you are looking at is about 40oz…you coulld use that as a measuring stick at other stores.

    As far as the pricing you’ve been quoted…I think it is quite good actually. I tend to work in square yards…so the $3 becomes $27…typical install is usually anywhere from $3-$6 depending on whether you have stairs and such (do ask if that includes moving furniture or not), pad would be another $3-$5 a yard and removal is usually $1 or $2 per yard….So $17 a yard or less than $2 a ft for the carpet is quite good.

    Good luck!

  52. Posted by Kris on March 20, 2010 at 4:29 pm

    We are looking at Karastan’s Essential Living and Woodland Pass. We need to carpet stairs, bedrooms, living and dining areas. Our household consists of 3 young boys (&friends), dog and cat. Which type would you recommend?

  53. Posted by CarpetGirl on March 22, 2010 at 12:44 am

    Both are wonderful choices. Essential is a little heavier, so I’d lean that way…but honestly you can’t go wrong with either!


  54. Posted by Mack on March 30, 2010 at 11:19 pm

    We are looking at a Mohawk Smartstrand frieze from the color wall (1I60 Fullfilled Mission). It is the most dense solid frieze on the color wall, but the dealer is telling me that it has a twist of 5.5, a density of 1884 and a face weight of 47 oz, which surprises me since the plush carpets on the color wall also have a twist of 5.5 and are more dense. I thought friezes were supposed to be more twisted, like in the 6 or 7 range. We want the carpet to last 15 years or more. Does this carpet have a high enough twist and density to last 15 years or more?

  55. Posted by CarpetGirl on March 31, 2010 at 12:51 pm

    What is your lifestyle like to have a carpet last 15 years? 7-10 is the norm but in homes with fewer people 15 is doable. If you have a house of 5 and a dog – there is nothing I will recommend for 15 years. And it’s not because the carpet will wear out – it’s because it will ugly out and you (or rather your wife) will want to replace it regardless. There are so many people that think a carpet should show NO wear and that’s not realistic either. You should expect a normal amount of wear for your environment adn with proper maintenance.

    Friezes by nature are less dense and high twist…but the definition is more a look than a construction. There is no minimum twist for example for a carpet to be called a frieze…if it looks a little “wormy” it gets the moniker. You could put out 20 carpets and have 20 different people decide whether they are texture or friezes and I swear you’d get 20 different answers. Twist will depend on yarn size and will vary from 5 to 7 turns. 5.5 is on the lower twist side for a frieze but still on the high twist side for a textured carpet. Like you, I would probably call this more of a near-frieze than a true frieze, but I should be just fine, Mack.


  56. Posted by CarpetGirl on March 31, 2010 at 12:52 pm

    Oh and Mack – get the best pad you can. Pad will affect the life of the carpet…you want 15 years…make the small addtional investment.


  57. Posted by Angie on April 2, 2010 at 2:30 pm

    I have learned a TON from your blog as well as the posts on gardenweb!!! I am so appreciative!

    Costco sells SmartStrand so I had a guy come out yesterday with the two plush styles they offer. One of them is Horizon Elite “Washington Heights” Twist 6.5, Weight 56.8, Density 3080. I do like the carpet quite a bit and the only pad they use is the Healthier Choice Premium Cushion, which I also like. The other style is similar, but with a higher wt and density, 65 and 3355.

    Karpet Korner is where I first learned of SmartStrand, and I love their Posh Origins, which I gather is the same product as Intelligent Style. It is softer than Washington Heights (it’s like a teddy bear!), and is less “wormy” looking (not sure if I like the wormy look or not). Now, had I not had the two to compare I probably would totally love Wash. Hts. as it is already softer than my current 1985 carpet (which is an excellent carpet, according to my mother.)

    The price of Posh Origins with an 8lb rebond pad (included in price) is 50 cents more per square foot than the Wash. Heights + Healther Choice Preimum Cushion+ installation, which, in the end, comes to $7600 after tax. I don’t know what the installation charge is for the Posh Origins store.

    The carpet is going on stairs, hallway and 4 bedrooms in our house of 6 plus a dog. So my question is, is the difference b/w the two carpets significant enough to warrant the higher price tag of Posh Origins? Or are they pretty much going to have the same performance?

    Also, I read on the net, and found the same info on the Healthier Choice Cusion installation instructions availabe on their website, that this cushion is to be installed foam side UP, as the hard backing is meant to help keep the cushion in place against the floor and the foam itself is the moisture barrier. I hadn’t read the installation instructions before the Costco guy came out, but I had read a complaint online about how hard this cushion is and the response from another customer was that it was probably installed upside down. So I asked this guy which way he installs the HC cushion, and he said with the hard side up, because that is the moisture barrier (which is what the complaining customer said his installer told him). So, if this guy has been installing this pad for 2 years and still doesn’t know that he’s putting it in upside down, should I be wary? He is contracted with Costco and has his own business (30 yrs experience in the carpet bus), and we are not in a huge town (Wenatchee, WA) so he says he puts a Costco order in about once a month. I don’t know if he uses this pad in his private business. Anyway…just wondering if this is a red flag, or not really a big deal. I hate “telling” people how to do their job, but I do want the cushion installed correctly!

    Thanks so much!
    Thank you so much for your help!

  58. Posted by Angie on April 2, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    Oh, and I wanted to add that my ultimate concern is the wear appearance on the stairs and hallway. The more I think about this the more I think that the one from Costco is probably a frieze, hence the slight wormy texture, and that it would show footprints, traffic flow and and wear less than the Posh Origins. Isn’t that the benefit of frieze?


  59. Posted by CarpetGirl on April 2, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    Angie –

    Glad you have found these little tidbits helpful…

    Friezes will show vacuum marks a little more than a texture but typically they do wear better. I prefer a heavy frieze or a loop on stairs for that reason but truly any good dense carpet liek Posh will be ok. The lighter ones that are less dense tend to show the backing when they are curled around the steps of the stairs. I hate that.

    Given what you are saying, I’d go with Washington Heights. I don’t know what the density of the pad is, but I’d assume it is at least 8 if not 10lb. Washington Heights is quickly becoming Costco’s best seller with that 65 ounce not far behind. I do not think the 8 ounces will make a huge difference for you and posh is around 60 as well.

    Getting back to the cushion…I found the install instructions you read. I would print those off and ask that the installer follow those instructions because you are concerned that your warranties (which I think are enhanced with that pad) will be voided if he doesn’t follow what is written on the manufacturer’s site. I assure you, any claim probably would be denied by us or the cushion guys and your installer would be liable – so really you are doing this to protect him as well. In his defense, moisture barriers are typically a fabric and do usually go on top. He probably just made an assumption and was never told otherwise. It is no skin off his nose if he installs it as you ask…the difficulty of the install is the same. Protect yourself and not his feelings – unless he’s helping pay for the floor:))

    Good luck – CG

  60. Posted by Angie on April 2, 2010 at 6:26 pm

    Thanks for your advice!! I so appreciate you taking the time to answer all of these questions from everyone. And I love the idea of printing off the info and asking the installer to follow the instructions so as to keep the warranty valid. Yes, the warranty is enhanced with the pad.

    Again…thank you!!

  61. Posted by Mack on April 2, 2010 at 6:49 pm

    I’m a little confused by your reply. We looked at Posh Origins, a plush style carpet, in another person’s home and it really looked awful in terms of showing footprints. So we are planning to go with a frieze specifically to avoid footprints and vacuum marks, which I thought was one of the main advantages of a frieze over a plush or a textured plush. Am I wrong?

  62. Posted by CarpetGirl on April 3, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    Mack –

    Friezes with long piles have a tendency to lay down and need to be brushed up…kind of like the old shags. That is what I am saying. If they are long enough to lay down, they will show a bit of a print. Now IF there are flecks and such it is harder to see. It is not that it is a problem with either frankly because it certainly pops back up. And what you call a plush is actually a texture…plushes are really saxony styles – those really show tracks. I want to say it was the 80’s when saxonies were pretty much the norm when someone said “can we make something that tracks less”…that’s when you started hearing about trackless carpets. Didn’t mean they didn’t show tracks…just showed less. That was how the textured carpet began. They tend to be dense and have little kinks and bends to reflect light.

    The primary advantage of a frieze over a texture is typically better wear performance becuase of the high twist. The drawbacks are they aren’t as soft and some people don’t like that “wormy look”. I love it!

    Sorry if I confused you – stick with your plan.


  63. Posted by CarpetGirl on April 3, 2010 at 2:09 pm

    Anytime Angie! Good luck with your purchase…


  64. I was trying to decide between Windwalker and Intelligent Style in the smartstrand. I will be carpeting living room, bedrooms with a high traffic pattern and some staires. which do you think will be more durable and show less wear patterns?

  65. Posted by Heriberto Delgado on April 5, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    I need to deside between “Hope Bay” (Home Depot) or “Organic Luxury” (Local Shop). Any advised? Thanks

  66. Posted by CarpetGirl on April 6, 2010 at 1:23 am

    I am a big fan of Organic Luxury. Great heavy weight texure.


  67. Posted by CarpetGirl on April 6, 2010 at 1:25 am

    I don’t have the twist info but the styles appear pretty similar from what I can see. I think either would do equally well in your home.


  68. Posted by Heriberto Delgado on April 6, 2010 at 3:36 am

    Thanks for your reply on my previous question. Do you know that approximately Face Weight for the “Organic Luxury Style” Thanks

  69. Posted by CarpetGirl on April 6, 2010 at 8:58 pm

    Right at 60 ounces.


  70. Posted by Jeremy on April 9, 2010 at 10:33 pm

    Hi. I have a question about Smartstrand color wall carpets. I recently had Intelligent Style carpet installed in my home and absolutely love it. The first time I had seen it was at a Mohawk Color Center, and it was actually called Posh Origins. It took quite a lot of investigative work to determine that Posh Origins was just the Color Center name for Intelligent Style, but this allowed us to compare prices across a few different places so that we could get the best deal. Now I’m looking for carpet to be installed in another home that I have, and I would like something that is similar but a little less expensive than Intelligent Style/Posh Origins.

    My understanding is that the color wall has three different carpets that are essentially the same except for their face weight. The face weight for Posh Origins was approximately 59 ounces. There is also a carpet called Stylish Silhouette, which has a face weight of approximately 49 ounces, and a carpet called Modern Ease, which has a face weight of approximately 39.2 ounces. These were all Color Center names for these carpets. So the color wall at the Mohawk Color Center had three basic carpets (roughly 40, 50, and 60 ounces), along with some friezes that I don’t care for. The salesperson at the Color Center had said that the Sorona fiber used for these carpets was of the newest generation, which made them softer than previous SmartStrands. For this reason, I would like to get the Modern Ease carpet, which I understand is the 40 ounce (or 39.2 ounce) equivalent of Posh Origins/Intelligent Style. My problem is that I don’t know what the non Color Center name for this would be so that I can order from the online wholesaler that sold me my Intelligent Style carpet. Would you happen to know what other name(s) Modern Ease goes by? If Posh Origins equals Intelligent Style, then Modern Ease would equal what?

    Thanks so much for your help in advance!

  71. Posted by CarpetGirl on April 11, 2010 at 1:20 am

    Jereny –

    Looks like Smart Color is the Horizon style you are looking for. Good luck!


  72. confused.need to replace 350 sq. ft. 30 +yr. old green tone shag carpet in cold family room. looking at different stores with mohawk–all smartstrand.saw PRESTIGIOUS MANNER,POSH ORIGINS,DELTA PEAK, FASHIONABLE VIEW AND FORT ZACH.ALSO,KARASTAN TOURNIER[more $].having trouble finding them on mohawk web site to compare density,weight,quality,etc. any thoughts. how do they compare? thanks.

  73. Posted by CarpetGirl on April 12, 2010 at 12:59 pm

    The website is going to show you styles according to brand. The store you choose will determine the brand when you sign in. The list you have above represents 3 different brands – you have Horizon, Mohawk ColorCenter and Mohawk Floorscapes styles in your list.

    Prestigious (floorscapes) and Fort Zach(horizon) are 48 ounces
    Fashionable View (colorcenter) is 55
    Posh(colorcenter) is 60
    Tournier is 65

    Delta Peak is 32 and so much lighter than your other choices that I am unsure why you have that one on the list. Unless you are looking at patterns or loops, don’t look at anything under 40 ounces.

    As for the others – they styles are very different, so you will need to choose based on the one you like most. Both Fashion Knowledge and Fort Zach are considered friezes so they probably have higher twist than the others, however Intelligent Style is one of my favorite styles. Love the look and feel of that piece.

  74. I have read all of your very informative responses, but I am still confused. Is the Sorona SmartStrand BCF Triexta and Sorona SmartStrand BCF 3GT the same? If not, which is better?

    Also, I am looking at Intelligent Style. I am a little worried about a comment that it really shows footprints & vacuum marks. I am thinking about this for my entire house & I do not want to regret it.

    Thanks for your opinion.

  75. Posted by Molly Benkiel on April 17, 2010 at 12:25 am

    We are so confused. We are particularly interested in SmartStrand friezes. Have seen the selection at the Mohwak dealer, and also Aladdin and Horizon samples from other sources. Is Face Weight the same as Certified Pile Weight? We understand that the warranties vary according to which sub-brand we choose. How much difference does this actually make? Any guidance you can give would be helpful.

  76. Posted by CarpetGirl on April 17, 2010 at 7:47 pm

    Certified pile weight and face weight are the same. Warranties will vary…SmartStrand Sorona have slightly better warranties than Aladdin’s SmartStrand brands…but not enough to matter frankly. I would not let that influence my decision.


  77. Posted by Sandi on April 30, 2010 at 2:04 am


    Thank you for all of the advise you have provided for so many on this site and the other. We have learned a lot from those questions and your responses. Now, however, it is our time to ask.

    We have winnowed our choice of carpet down to two, both Karastan Smartstrand with Sonora. They are from local carpet stores and we would like more information on the weight, twist and density than they have provided. The first product is call “Edelston” with what I believe is an identifying number of 73260. The other is “Artful Inspiration” numbered 63450. I hope those numbers are instructive along with the names.

    We are two “older” people with a 15# dog; she has no accidents but one never know about the future of such things. We intend to get the 8# pad with water barrier to be on the safe side.

    Anything else you can provide us about the weight, twist and density as well as general impression of these products would be greatly appreciated.


  78. Posted by arthur klowden on May 2, 2010 at 10:09 pm

    thanks re weight. many seem to say density is even more important.what are the density ratings of our 3 finalists: posh[intelligent style],prestigious manner,and fashionable view? will posh show more footprints?

  79. Posted by CarpetGirl on May 3, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    Sandi –

    Edleston is 65 ounces, twist is 6.5 turns per inch, and a density of 3357
    Artful is 45 ounces, twist is 5.5 turns per inch, and a density of 2924

    I would go with Edleston for certain!


  80. Posted by CarpetGirl on May 3, 2010 at 2:33 pm

    Arthur –

    Posh – 60 oz, density 2936
    Prestigious – 48 oz, density 1884
    Fashionable – 55 oz, density 2173

    All have a twist level of 5.5.

    More than one homeowner on here has said that Posh shows footprints so I am going to trust that opinion. I haven’t seen it on the floor so it is hard for me to tell you myself…they have experienced it. These all appear to be similar yarns so if you can see your hand print you will likely see foot prints. Though I am not completely sure where footprints rank on your list of aesthetics, one style I am confident will track less is Villa Way (ColorCenter)….you will give up some softness for the density and the style is more traditional. Worth comparing if footprints are a huge nuisance for you. You could try a true frieze as well…tighter twist. Again different look and not as soft but I’ve been told fewer footprints.


  81. Posted by Sandi on May 3, 2010 at 5:46 pm


    If you could indulge me for one more inquiry, do the Karastan “Wilderness Retreat” specs fall between the two previous products?



  82. Posted by CarpetGirl on May 3, 2010 at 7:49 pm

    Sandi –

    56 ounce
    6.5 twist
    2429 density


  83. Posted by lookinforcarpet on May 5, 2010 at 4:43 pm

    I am trying to figure out what carpet is 1I51 organic luxury? and also, 1g92 cristallo?
    i know that all stores have other names. any ideas?

  84. Posted by scratchy513 on May 5, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    I really appreciate your attentiveness to these threads. We are adding/replacing carpet in a playroom, office, bedroom and hallway/stairs. A salesman came to our house and showed us their equivalent of Horizon’s Constant Charm, which is a 38oz face weight. The price ($3000 for 89 sq yards, installed with 8 oz pad, with removal and furniture moving) makes it more affordable for us, but is this too “light” a carpet for our stairs and other rooms? We have a two and six year old. We have never purchased carpet before.

  85. Posted by CarpetGirl on May 6, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    Lookin –

    Not sure I get the question here, Organic is a 60 ounce texture and Cristallo a patterned product. They are completely different products and Cristallo should be very very easy to find in any store because of the distinctiveness of the pattern. Happy to try to help if you could clarify what your question is.


  86. Posted by CarpetGirl on May 6, 2010 at 8:11 pm

    I probably should call you Andrew but Scratchy is so much more fun!

    So Scratchy…

    What does “their equivalent” mean? Are you saying that it is the same carpet under a different name or that they are offering you some other type of carpet that kinda looks like Constant Charm? Phrases like that make me very uneasy.

    Constant Charm is a 38 ounce LOOP carpet. Weights for loops carpets are much lower than cut piles. 38 ounces is actually a very good weight for a loop. Loops are also an excellent choice for high traffic areas, so if this carpet is indeed CC – you should be in great shape. I have a 42 ounce loop that has been down for about 7 years on stairs and a hallway…now my kids are older – but the carpet still looks great. Medium tan shade works great.

    Now if they are trying to show you a “knockoff” be wary. The performance is in the fibers. You will not get the stain resistance from a nylon. Wear will be fine but with the kids, you’ll want the stain protection…and you’ll be disappointed.


  87. Posted by scratchy513 on May 7, 2010 at 4:32 pm

    Its Luna’s version from Horizon/Mohawk called Hannah’s Dream. Its SmartStrand. All of the colors and the look match the Constant Charm, so I assume its their labeled version they get from Horizon/Mohawk. As I mentioned above, does $3000 sound about right for 89 square feet of this carpet. Are we going to be happy with this carpet in several rooms? Another carpet person came out and didn’t believe that SmartStrand was any better than other manufacturers (“all decent carpet will clean well”/ “Constant Charm will show wear sooner and will snag fairly easily..”). He showed us several samples and we were looking at plushes from American Carpet in the end. His SmartStrand was called Soothing Manor and he offered it at $5.35 a square foot (removal, installation, furniture, pad, etc.) or $4280 for the project. I can’t find Soothing Manor anywhere online. What is it in terms of specifications? Is it worth the substantial premium over Constant Charm? SmartStrand really is great, right? Would you put a twisted loop like Contant Charm in several rooms, or is it not really “bedroom” carpeting? Sorry for so many questions. Its hard to buy carpeting.

  88. Posted by CarpetGirl on May 7, 2010 at 6:38 pm


    Hoping you have a typo there and meant square YARDS…not square feet. If you have been quoted $3000 for 89 sq ft – RUN! It is a good quote for all that is included when in yards.

    All decent carpet does not clean well. The rep had no clue. Here are the facts…nylons have topical treatments for stain and soil protection. You might be ok before the first time…after a steam cleaning about 33% of that treatment is cleaned off with the dirt. I have a Stainmaster down which has been impossible to keep clean – rather disappointed but it is in our most active room so I should be realistic knowing all that I know (but it still annoys me). I also have a Wear-Dated style upstairs that has held up well – BUT it is in the upstairs areas.

    I have loop in all my bedrooms and the upstairs hall and stairwell. I love it. So prefer it to a plush but again that is my style. (my other two carpets – the stainmaster and the Sorona are patterns) If you are looking for super soft, barefoot carpet…this isn’t it. Loops tend to wear better because of their overall density. Not sure why that same…slightly uninformed rep…would say it would wear more quickly. There is a reason why very few cutpiles are used in commercial settings…loops show wear less. Snags can be an issue if you have pets, like cats, that like to sink claws into things. IF they work at it they can pull ends loose – but it is tough. Try pulling a tuft out from the middle of a carpet. There is a lot of latex holding that baby in! AND make sure that your installer doesn’t leave unraveled edges exposed…if an end is left loose it can find it’s way to the beater bar on your vacuum…it’s not easy but I have been there.

    I can’t help with Soothing Manor…have no access to the Luna styles – sorry! Must be a pretty heavy style for $48 a sq yard.

    I honestly can’t recommend SmartStrand more…it is the best we have in terms of overall performance. I wish you were dealing with more informed people but it sounds like you just need to decide which look you prefer and dive in.


  89. Posted by scratchy513 on May 7, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    Thank you so much for your quick response. Soothing Manor is a non-Luna style that I was told was new under the Horizon label. One of the colors is Burlwood. Card says Style: IM93 Soothing Manor. Has the Green Label Plus. 100% Smartstrand BCF Triexta Made With Dupont Sorona Renewably Sourced Polymer. Mohawk clasifies this as “elite”. What would I be getting with something like this over Constant Charm, which I assume is not elite? They are both loop carpets. They look the same and generally feel the same.

  90. carpetgirl:

    I have read your comments about friezes and loop style carpets being a good choice for stairs and traffic patterns. Which do you think would be a better choice between Southernmost Point (frieze) and Constant Charm(loop). I like both. We also have no children and no cats but we do have a medium size poodle.

  91. Posted by CarpetGirl on May 10, 2010 at 1:40 am

    Scratchy –

    I would expect them to both be elite, but I have no info on Soothing to tell you more. Ask your retailer for specs on each product to compare.


  92. Posted by CarpetGirl on May 10, 2010 at 1:43 am

    Karen –

    The nails on the dog could be a problem for a loop…not always but could be. It is a bit of a coin-toss otherwise.


  93. Posted by Becky on May 25, 2010 at 1:07 am

    We are moving into a new house. We are wanting to replace the carpet in the bedrooms. We have 1 child(with the plans to have more) and 1 dog. We are looking at the smartstrand Aladdin Collection. Our local carpet store is offering 1.50 per square feet. However, they were not able to provide me with
    the pile denisity, turf twist, etc. How do I find this info out? Is 1.50/square ft a reasonalble price? Do you reccomend the smartstrand pad?

    Thank you,

  94. Posted by Elaine on May 29, 2010 at 7:12 pm

    Dear carpetgirl,
    I have learned so much from reading your posts. Thank you!
    Carpet is really confusing and difficult to purchase. Now it’s my time to ask for clarification and help.

    This carpet will be going into three bedrooms in a southwest style home with 18″ tile throughout. One room will be a home office, one will have a home gym in it and the third will be a guest bedroom. Only two adults, no kids, no pets. But we will be going in and out of the office and the gym room daily.

    We do not yet live in or near the home where the carpet is to be installed. The home is about 25 miles outside of the large city of Tucson and currently I have to travel about 80 miles to the home and also to any carpet dealers other than these three locals mentioned below.

    I started out wanting the old-style loop Berber with big and small tufts for depth or texture and plenty of the small flecks of darker colors on the lighter background for color variation so it does not look like one solid color, since I want this in a VERY light shade of white, ivory, cream etc. I also was certain that I wanted it in 100% nylon or in Smartstrand. I wanted stain resistance, quality, durability and texture retention, and a product that will not break down in footpath areas.
    So far, in everything I’ve seen, I quickly found that the old-style Berber doesn’t exist except in Olefin, (which I definitely do not want). Also, I do not care for any patterns on the Berbers since they all looked too busy to the eye.

    I first looked at Loews, Home Depot, and a Local Independent carpet shop in our small city. Everything I saw there had very small loops, with not much texture or depth.

    I then had the Costco Rep. come to the home after explaining what I was looking for and he arrived with those same flat, commercial looking Berber samples with the small loops. After looking at them in the rooms they were going into, they did not look good. They looked like what we used to call commercial or indoor-outdoor style and looked very dull, as if worn. He then showed us a very light, almost white, frieze but it did not have nearly enough flecks in it and didn’t feel very dense. Also, it did not look good against the tile that is in the entire home and connects to all three of the rooms’ entrances.
    He then showed us another sample of one that I know very little about since he wrote up the estimate on a one page form that showed nothing more than the style name, the color and the dollar amount. I do not even know how many yards we needed nor what type of Smartstrand or style this is. (I do have my own room measurements and can probably get the approximate yardage without someone having to make another trip to the home.)
    He did repeatedly state that Costco only sells the Smartstrand Elite products.

    I then traveled to the city to a Dealer shown on the Mohawk website and also to a Carpet One store.
    I am now thoroughly confused. I understand that every retailer has different style names and different color names for the same product but would love to compare this with others side by side.

    How do I compare Costco’s Smartstrand Elite “Washington Heights” style, color Angora, to other Dealers lines? This ‘Angora’ is almost a solid color, but does have some lighter fibers woven in to reflect light and sort of break up the solid look.

    I read your previous replies posted here to another person back in April about this same carpet style and about the the Healthier Choice Premium Cushion and it’s installation.
    I’m comfortable with their pad. He said it’s a 10 lb. , froth urethane foam and does double the warranty so it should be very good.
    Thanks so much to you and that other person for the tip about printing out the installation guides for the installer to be sure they install it with the hard-backing side DOWN and not UP!

    I’ve had to call him several times to ask questions about the pad and to get the Twist 6.5, Weight 56.8, and Density 3080 information but I am tired of calling to eke out information.
    I feel that I need to see and know more about what I am buying rather than making a decision on just two boards of Berbers and two 6×6 inch squares of other pieces of carpet.
    But every time I go to another store I wind up more confused and cannot find a matching product line to see again and to compare against others.

    Can you tell me what this carpet really is? Is it Smartstrand with the Dupont Sorona? Is it a Frieze or a Plush style? Does it have a good backing and what type of backing is it?
    Does it come in a heavier weight and do I need a heavier weight?
    And how do I find this same carpet at other dealers to compare it against others?

    Sorry for so many questions and thank you so much for all your tips.
    This is difficult and your advice is invaluable!

  95. Posted by CarpetGirl on June 1, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    Becky –

    Your dealer should be able to call Mohawk (or his rep) and ask for details on the carpet. I assume the $1.50/sq ft is carpet only?? Not pad or installed? Without knowing the style it is hard for me to know with certainty that it is a good price but it sounds reasonable to me.


  96. Posted by CarpetGirl on June 1, 2010 at 1:26 pm

    Elaine –

    You get the award for longest post:)) Washington Heights is a great style. The Horizon name is Windwalker. It is SmartStrand with DuPont Sorona. It’s tough to find a SmartStrand Sorona product that isn’t Elite, btw.

    Berbers have been steadily going downhill in popularity for years. Most are olefin or an olefin/nylon blend. I don’t recommend them. A style of carpet to consider with the large amount of tile you are using is a patterned carpet. SmartStrand has a handful of patterns – some larger, some smaller that might work very well for you. I am a HUGE fan of patterns, but it is simply a matter of taste. Patterns tend to be lower profile (which works well with tile) and for me I can add drama without color. Costco is looking at adding some patterns but they haven’t been added yet. Etchware is a Horizon style I like a lot.

    The Healthier Choice pad will do just fine.

  97. Posted by Marlene on June 3, 2010 at 12:21 am

    Hi Carpetgirl,

    Thank you for all the great information you provide to us carpet newbies.
    I am looking at a Karastan smartstrand. I have been to 4 retailers which carry Karastan, however they each have a different names for what I think is the same carpet. Could you verify this?
    The carpet I am interested is named Edgeworth. I believe it also goes under the name of “Exciting” and “Embaceable”. One of the stores tells me they will have a sale coming up in a few weeks which would be at $5.87 sqft. including install and moisture pad. Is this a good deal?

    Couldn’t get any information when I called Karastan or Mohwak as to density, weight, etc. If the carpets above are not the same, which of above 3 is better? Could you tell me their density, weight.

    One more thing, went to Carpet One and saw a Bigelow carpet called “Blewsdale”. Felt very nice and would be $5.98 sqft installed with pet pad. What do you think?

    Thank you so very much for all your help.

  98. Posted by CarpetGirl on June 3, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    Marlene –

    Karastan has Gallery Dealers and then those that carry the full Karastan lineup. Hence the different names. Embraceable and Edgeworth are the same style. The only spec I have is 80 ounces. It is a CHUNK of carpet. I know nothing about Blewsdale as C1 styles aren’t on my list – sorry.

    On the pricing – seems reasonable to me. Be sure to confirm whether “install” includes moving furniture and old carpet removal. If it doesn’t be prepared for another buck or two added on. Unfortunately some retailers aren’t completely upfront on all costs – you have to ask to be sure. If they say it isn’t included – negotiate…there is never any harm in trying:)


  99. Posted by Marlene on June 3, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    Thanks for the info. The carpet feels very soft and is quite dense. When you say its a CHUNK of carpet, I assume mean that’s a good thing. Right?? I will be putting it in my bedroom and formal living room which doesn’t get used much. Was also thinking of putting it in my office, but a the guy who came out to measure said that he wouldn’t recommend it since it is a high traffic area. He was concerned that in a few years it would not look so good. He also seemed slight concerned it in the bedroom, because of high traffic pattern. Is that true? He was recommending more of a LCL. But I told him I probably will get a dog in the next year. My 2 dogs died this year. I know dogs with looped carpet, not a good idea. He said a short LCL is not a problem, if it snags you simply “cut it”. HUH?

    The rooms are quite big, I am looking about 1400 sq/ft total. So it would be costly, I don’t want to spend all that money if I’m not going to be happy in a few years.

    What ya think?

  100. Posted by CarpetGirl on June 3, 2010 at 5:52 pm

    Marlene –

    CHUNK is GREAT! LOL…sorry:)

    I am not concerned about the bedroom at all frankly. Big, comfy cut piles have always been considered bedroom carpets. I kinda disagree with him on the office as well – they are typically single use and I don’t really see that as high traffic – unless I am wrong and you office 2 or 3 people out of it. Anyway, high traffic areas are hallways, stairs and family rooms to me. Offices become an issue when people have rolling desk chairs and think their carpet is ok without a chair protector. NO carpet would stand up to desk chairs over time. Commercial grade even has a hard time.

    All that said, I am a huge fan tho of LCLs. It stands for Loop-Cut-Loop. This action is what makes the patterns – so they are never 100% loop and they are all pretty low pile. Doesn’t mean you can’t snag them if you pull a loop, but it is unlikely to run the length of the piece because of the cut ends that will interrupt the pull. You should trim snags if you get one but there will still be a gap regardless – weird answer from him. The dogs are iffy with them tho, so go with your gut on that one.

    You’ve done the right things…chosen a good heavy-weight, dense carpet…with a moisture barrier pad (you didn’t give me density of the pad – go with 10 lb)…I think you’ve chosen well and that you will be happy with it.

    Do make sure you completely understand what is included in “installed”:)


  101. Posted by MaryAnn on June 5, 2010 at 12:10 pm

    Hi Carpet Girl .. I reposted this from your “CarpetGirls Blog” since it landed up in the March Dates and wasn’t sure if you would see it.

    I think Mohawk owes you a big bonus for this service, Very Serious! I would not have considered Smartstrand if not for you, as I’m sure many others feel the same way. I called Lowes to see if they carry “Smartstrand” and they said yes, I stopped in tonight and they were showing me the “Everstrand” – so many sales people are clueless.

    I had my house measured and I underestimated my rooms so my total price for the Miami Shores is much more than I can afford. I found “Favorite Memory” which I was told is “Front Runner” at a more reasonable price and the color-Sandcastle seems to work for me since it does have the flecks and the frosty shine which I love. Do you have any specs on this carpet and if this will hold up well, (including stairs) ,

    The warranty says 20 years on stain resistance and not lifetime,and 7 years on both texture and fade, which I think should be okay. The salesman thought it was 40 oz, but I wanted to make sure before investing in all this carpet. I will save almost $1,000 on this one and I will get the 8 lb moisture proof pad. I haven’t asked if they tape the seams yet, but since you had it done, I will ask.

    I was hoping you could let me know what you think. I could buy the medium or lowest grade off the color wall and save money, but this doesn’t have the flecks which I really wanted so that my new carpet will have a different look, than what I’m replacing which is an almost white plush with lots of resufacing stains(yuk). See why I’m so happy I found you and your blogs to educate myself on this new fiber, it will be nice not to worry about the stains.

    I’m open to spending a few more dollars since I will have to finance a portion of this purchase, so please don’t feel bad telling me I should switch to a different style.I can live with a solid if it is a better choice. By the way I have 2 children and a small dog, so I need something that will wear well, yet affordable. I also want to sell my home in about 5 years. so I want it to still look decent in 5 years. Sorry for such a long post, but I’m so close to ordering I can’t wait until this part of the buying experience is behind me and I can enjoy the new carpet.

    Thanks again for the help, you are the best! MaryAnn

  102. Posted by CarpetGirl on June 5, 2010 at 2:51 pm

    MaryAnn –

    You are sweet! You know what I don’t need a bonus for this…I’d take one of course:)…but I really enjoy the questions. I have so much worthless knowledge that it is nice to be able to share the useful stuff! Hopefully MHK can use this to try to find a way to simplify things for you all.

    Sorry about the Lowe’s thing…Home Depot has exclusivity for SmartStrand in the home center arena. Unfortunately I think they just wanted to get you in the store – they prob knew they didn’t carry it but figured they could switch you b/c they were such a great sales person;) If you saw the Green Living display at Lowe’s, let me know what you thought. It’s one of my favorites and was done by one of my team members a few years back.

    What you are looking at is SmartStrand – not SmartStrand Sorona. I thought they had increased the stain warranty to lifetime, so I’d suggest the sales person make a call to MHK for you to be sure. The SmartStrand line is slightly more affordable…not quite as much styling…and average a little lighter in weight – but do have good fleck selections. Performance is just as good, but the renewable ingredient isn’t in this line – only the DuPont one. So – you don’t have to go with DuPont Sorona to meet your needs here and might as well keep a little more in your wallet.

    Fav memory is Front Runner. 40 ounces and I think a fine choice for what you are doing. Go for it! And enjoy it!

    Thanks again for the kind words:)

  103. Posted by MaryAnn on June 5, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    Hi Adam,
    Did you have your carpet installed and are you happy with the style? Does it show footprints? I think this is the same style I’m considering and it would be nice to hear how it looks down in a home.
    Thanks! MaryAnn

  104. Posted by MaryAnn on June 8, 2010 at 1:48 am

    Hi CG – Thanks for the reply, I’m still a little concerned with Front Runner not having enough density and twist for the stairs, so after getting some more prices, I may ask again for your advice. I’m waiting on a price for Sacred Star this one is at 46 oz and has more twist and less height. Spending a few more hundred when we are talking thousands doesn’t seem that bad. I never knew carpet costs this much, I will be much more careful about keeping it looking good!

    I did have another question on the mositure barrier pad, I understand that this should be glued down a little vs stapled – then put tape on seams, what are your thoughts? What side is the mosture barrier laid – face up or face down? That may be a stupid question, but I have no clue and I want to make sure after all this research they install it properly. MaryAnn

  105. Posted by CarpetGirl on June 8, 2010 at 12:22 pm

    MA –

    Sacred is a great style. It’ll do just fine. I realize it is a big purchase and very glad to hear you say you’ll maintain it well. That is the biggest conusmer mistake I see – not keeping the carpet well maintained!

    The barrier should be face up to meet the spills. I don’t remember mine being glued down except for downstairs which is concrete – but it would make sense since the staples would put holes in the barrier.


  106. Posted by Robert on June 11, 2010 at 10:39 am

    Hi CG

    I have a question that you have touched on but I am still confused – Is there a difference between the Home Depot Sorona and my local carpet guy’s Tiextra? I have read that Tiextra is made from Soron fibers – is the only difference that the HD Sorona has the eco benefit of the corn sugar?



  107. Posted by CarpetGirl on June 11, 2010 at 12:54 pm


    Sorry for the confusion…let me attempt to clear it up. Triexta is the name the FTC (federal trade comission) has given for this entire group of fibers whose chemical name is polytrimethylene terephalate. The FTC has a list of names that manufacturers must use on labels for textiles – you can find it by searching Some others are polyester, olefin, nylon, rayon, etc. You will see these names on every label from shirts and socks to mattresses and pillows. So this name isn’t a brand or a Mohawk designation – it is a governmental one. It is rather new – put into place in March of 2009. So when you look at the pile content line for a SmartStrand – SORONA or NON-SORONA – sample (that was made after the name was introduced) you will see the word triexta in that line. If it is an older sample it will say polyester somewhere, since that was the initial designation for the polymer.

    The Bio part doesn’t impact whether triexta is used….it is used regardless under law for the entire category. SORONA is the designator for bio and for the fibers made with the DuPont polymer. Mohawk has two SmartStrands – one made from Sorona and one that is not and more generic – not branded and not bio.

    So in answer to your question…there is a difference between HD’s SmartStrand Sorona and a local carpet guy’s SmartStrand – IF it doesn’t say Sorona on it. Sorona has the bio component and the other would not. Performance would be the same if the constructions are the same.

    Let me know if this clears up the muddy water…CG

  108. Posted by MaryAnn on June 12, 2010 at 4:09 pm

    CG – I received a bigger sample of Front Runner and didn’t like it. See what happens when I shop for carpet for weeks and become educated! I will just have to pay a little more, but I want to be happy. I really liked Sacred Star, but none of the colors work for me, all the beiges were too yellow.

    Now considering Brilliant Design – have you seen this laid down? Wondered about footprints? I’m open to any suggestions on styles that I should look at which is a cut pile with a frosty look, that will have a good rating and be good on stairs.

    Brilliant Design 49oz – PAR 5.5 Density 3005 Twist 5.5 I find the “COBWEB” color to be a good solid beige
    HD Command Performance I – 39 oz or CP II- 49 oz
    Atlantic Shores – 50 oz – would like more info (haven’t priced yet)

    Thanks again!

  109. Posted by Robert on June 12, 2010 at 10:28 pm

    Thanks CG! I purchased the Command Performance II from HD just the other night. Appreciate your help.

    Be well,


  110. Posted by CarpetGirl on June 13, 2010 at 1:26 am

    Robert –

    Congratulations! Enjoy it!


  111. Posted by CarpetGirl on June 13, 2010 at 1:31 am

    MA –

    Bummer on Front Runner – glad you looked!

    Unfortunately I haven’t seen BD down. Based on the specs it sounds great. Much newer than Atlantic Shores, which was intro’d in 2005, but I can’t say anything bad about a style that has been around for 5 years either!


  112. Posted by MaryAnn on June 13, 2010 at 10:28 am

    Thans so much CG – I ordered BD yesterday. Thank you again for all the assistance! You really deserve a bonus for all this help, talk to your management – without you I would have bought a Shaw nylon, because the first store I visited raved about this product and how Shaw stands behind their warranty. Plus everyone was saying nylon is a better product – so it was all you that got me looking at Smartstrand! – Thank you..

    You are providing such a valuable service, With the cost being as high as it is, people are craving more information to make an educated decision. Carpet dalers sell so much different carpet, they don’t have the expertise on certain brands or they are trying to sell what makes more money for them.

    You are the best! MaryAnn

  113. Posted by Karen on June 16, 2010 at 4:15 pm

    CarpetGirl – First off thanks so much for all your great info. I have been researching Smartstrand for the last month and the most helpful info comes from you (via google!).

    Anyways we are debating between Horizon Brilliant Design, Intelligent Style, and Windwalker. We have 2 cats, 2 dogs, and a toddler (and hopefully more in the future). What are your thoughts on which style would be the best for us? Do you have the wts, density, and twists on each?

    Also, is the Windwalker longer than the others? Which one would show more footprints, etc?

    Thanks again!

  114. Posted by CarpetGirl on June 16, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    Karen –

    BD is 50 oz has a twist of 5.5 and a density of 3005. IS is 60 oz and WW is 58. That is all I can see from my notes. Have not seen any of them down so footprints are hard for me to comment on, but I am a big fan of all three. If I find out anything else, I’ll let you know.


  115. Posted by CarpetGirl on June 16, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    Karen –

    There was the same question under “inspiration”…knew I wasn’t losing it – YET! Exact same 3 styles. Windwalker is 6.5 turns of twist and a density of 3080…IS 5.5 turns and 2936 density…BD 5.5 turns and 3005 for density. That extra turn of twist is important…I’d go with Windwalker if you like the look of it and the colors as well as the others.


  116. Posted by Karen on June 16, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    Thanks CarpetGirl!!! Your like the “Batman” for carpet!!!

  117. Posted by Karen on June 16, 2010 at 11:10 pm

    CG – would you be able to verify the PAR on Brilliant Design? An earlier post on here someone said it was 5.5 but my local retailer says it is 3.3.

    Thanks again 🙂

  118. Posted by CarpetGirl on June 17, 2010 at 12:29 pm

    LOL…that’s funny!

  119. Posted by CarpetGirl on June 17, 2010 at 12:31 pm

    Karen –

    Has to be a mistake since PARs usually are 0-5 scales with 5 being best. The person likely put the twist number there instead of the PAR rating.


  120. Posted by karen on June 18, 2010 at 8:46 pm

    CG – another question for you! we have decided on the Windwalker but would like color recommdations. We really liked the color Bamboo for Bril Design and and Intel Style but dont know about the Windwalker. Do you have an idea of what would be closest to to the Bamboo?

  121. Posted by Elaine on June 21, 2010 at 1:22 am

    Hello Carpetgirl,
    Thanks so much for all your help. You should definitely get a huge bonus for guiding and retaining so many customers for Mohawk. I find very little info on their site and today I can’t even get in.
    You identified the carpet I am buying thru Costco in your reply to my post – the too Long Post!
    You replied:
    Washington Heights is a great style. The Horizon name is Windwalker. It is SmartStrand with DuPont Sorona. It’s tough to find a SmartStrand Sorona product that isn’t Elite, btw.

    Can you tell me what the pile height is of this carpet? I am trying to figure out what type of chair mats to purchase for one room that will be used as a home office.
    They suggest choosing by the pile height and categorize the mats by:
    Less than 6mm pile.
    Less than 9mm pile.
    Less than 12mm pile.
    More than 12mm pile.

    Thank you so very much for your help.

  122. Posted by CarpetGirl on June 21, 2010 at 3:34 pm

    Elaine –

    I am not sure…I’d think a standard would work, but I am traveling and have no info or way to contact someone with info. Can you call your retailer??

    Karen –

    Without samples, I don’t have any color info at all. I’d go look for one, but I’m in Lithuania with my mother and sisters – no carpet dealers here:)


  123. Posted by Debbie on June 23, 2010 at 7:39 am


    I just discovered your blog today and I love it. I am looking at carpeting my downstairs. It recieves a lot of traffic and I have two collie mix dogs. I went to Carpet Exchange and Peek’s Flooring. Both stores had smartstrand but the carpet names are different and I am having trouble comparing them. At Carpet Exchange I really liked the Edgeworth and it was 51.99 a yard with installation and pet moisture pad included. At Peek’s I liked their Essential Living line at 36.00 a yard with an 8 pound pad and installation. A pet pad would be extra as well as charging extra to move heavy items. Which style would you recommend and are the prices reasonable?


  124. Posted by CarpetGirl on June 23, 2010 at 7:50 pm

    Debbie –

    Welcome! I know both companies actually and you are in good hands either way. And since both are Karastan’s, you are good there as well. All I can see is weights on my sheet – Essential is about 65 ounces and Edge is 80. So there is about a pound of fiber difference. The pricing is quite good – my opinion. Edge is not quite $6 a sq ft and Essential around $4. Without knowing your taste it is hard for me to specifically recommend one over the other – BUT know that you are making a good choice with either. A great choice actually:)


  125. Posted by shirlee on July 10, 2010 at 1:03 am

    We have tried to do comparison shopping at several different places, only to get more confused. The carpet I like at home depot is command performance. I haven’t seen this one mentioned much. Should I be looking at some of the other ones that are mentioned above? Could you tell me more about this carpet? (density, twist, is it a frieze?, ect.) What would it be called at another store? What level of carpet is it? It is going to be in the whole house and have 2 cats, 2 dogs, and 2 kids, so I need something extremely stain resistant. I want something that isn’t going to matte down and very soft, but isn’t going to poof after vacuuming or after a couple of years. Is this a good carpet? How much per yard or square foot should I expect to pay for this? They have it at 3.65 a ft. I believe it is a dupont smartstand. Is it a mohawk sorona?

  126. Posted by CarpetGirl on July 10, 2010 at 11:31 pm

    Shirlee –

    Unfortunately I don’t have any spec or other carpet info on Home Depot styles. What I know about CP is that there are 2 or 3 weights…CPI, CPII and CPIII (I think there was a III). Same yarns, just heavier options. CP has been in Depot since they took on the line, so I am confident it has been a good one for them.

    All of our SmartStrand styles at Home Depot are DuPont Sorona…and anytime you see SmartStrand it is Mohawk. The stain resistance is built in so you are a-ok there.

    Pricing varies so much from region to region as well as “what is included”…my advice is to ask the weight of the carpet, be sure you completely understand what all is in the pricing (install, pad, furniture moving, old carpet removal…or just carpet) and then hit a few more places to compare…if a style looks reasonably like CP, you should be able to compare. And another hint…which you didn’t hear from me…sometimes the color names and numbers are the same:))


  127. Posted by shirlee on July 10, 2010 at 11:59 pm

    Which collection is it in? Wundeweve, Horizon, or Alladin?

  128. Posted by CarpetGirl on July 11, 2010 at 12:24 am


    CP is a Home Depot style. There is likely a similar style under a different name in Horizon but as I said, I don’t have that info for HD styles.


  129. Posted by shirlee on July 12, 2010 at 1:38 am

    ok, so I went to Home Depot and got a sample of the Command Performance lll and now I am even more confused. On the back of the carpet it says:
    style 01070D
    sku 352-054
    weight 58.80 oz-is this a good weight?
    twist 5.50 x 5.50
    fiber 100 % smarstrand bcf triexta w/ dupont sorona renewable sourced polymer
    color glazed pecan

    But, on the price tag is has?
    Alladin s/o signs 20
    c 349-678

    Is it triexta or sorona? I thought it was one or the other. Is it eco friendly? Is it the lower end Alladin? or Dupont? I know there is a difference, yes? Is this a good carpet? What is the difference between a plush and a frieze? Sorry, just reading the above posts, I am even more confused. They are selling just the carpet for 32.85 sq yd. Does that sound about right?

  130. Posted by CarpetGirl on July 12, 2010 at 2:55 pm

    Shirlee –

    Mohawk has used the Aladdin name for yeras at Home Depot. I have been told it was because the Mohawk name was more valuable to our independent retailers. So anything that is in HD could have Aladdin on it but it is not hte same Aladdin as you see at other retailers. Believe me I see the confusion and I hate it!

    Go back to the fiber line…SmartStrand triexta with DuPont Sorona renewably sourced polymer…let’s dissect it. SmartStrand – Mohawk’s brand name(used for Aladdin and Horizon styles, Sorona and non)…Triexta – the FTC name for this category of fibers (Sorona or non-sorona…think of it like the word nylon which is simply a generic name for a category of fibers)…DuPont Sorona renewably sourced polymer – this tells you it is DuPont and eco-friendly. This one line trumps all the other brands…if you see DuPont Sorona, you have the eco-friendly, higher-end SmartStrand.

    I think CPIII is a great choice. Twist level is good for a dense texture. If it were a frieze, I’d look for 6.5. The weight is great. Doesn’t get too much better frankly and at less than $4 a sq ft I think the pricing is pretty solid.


  131. Posted by Donna on July 20, 2010 at 12:07 am

    Hi Carpetgirl, love your website!!! I like the Smartstrand but am trying to decide between Karastan -Edleston for $5.84 sq. ft installed with moisture pad ( I think it’s 8lb) or Mohawk- Organic luxury for 4.44 sq ft installed also with the pad. This one would be 4.94 sq. ft. if they don’t have the color I want in stock. I will be purchasing at a local business Kelly’s Carpets in Omaha, Ne. Could you tell me if you think these are good prices and which carpet would be best. I’m single and older and have two little dogs. They are pretty good but getting old themselves and every once in a while one will spit up and about twice a year the 10 yr old will pee on the floor! I’d like this to last so I don’t have to recarpet for a long time! I need your advise please!!!! Thank you.

  132. Posted by Sandi on July 20, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    CG; we selected the Edleston and after two tries the dealer couldn’t get a good edge match and has offered us a free upgrade to a very similar (in color and texture) to Edgeworth. Is this really an upgrade and what are the specs for it?

    Thanks for all your help.


  133. Posted by CarpetGirl on July 20, 2010 at 6:56 pm

    Donna –

    First let me tell you that I am a huge fan of Kelly’s Omaha. Mike Hughes is one of my favorite people in the entire industry. Jacque, Tommy and the rest of his team are absolutely top notch and in case you didn’t know in 2008 Kelly’s was chosen as Mohawk’s first ever GreenWorks dealer of the year. Their green story is amazing. Anyway – you can’t go wrong with your dealer selection and I think the pricing is in line with everything I have seen.

    Organic is just a little lighter than Edleston…not enough to make a difference really, so I’d go with Organic and save a little $$. My other recommendation is to get yourself a small, handheld steam cleaner for those unfortunate accidents. Bissell makes a “little Green Machine” you can find at Walmart that works great for small areas.

    Luck and my Best to the Kelly’s team!


  134. Posted by CarpetGirl on July 20, 2010 at 6:59 pm

    Sandi –

    I’m impressed with your dealer and YES it is definitely an upgrade. Edge is 80 ounces…Edle is 65…you’ll be getting about a pound more fiber in every square yard.

    Your dealer deserves a Customer Service Gold Star!


  135. Your advice is so helpful–thank you. My husband and I love the feel of SmartStrand Sorona Prestigious Manner, but are worried it won’t hold up as well as Organic Luxury, which is our other option. It’s for our bedroom and an adjoining foyer–there’s the thing–the foyer will have 2 main paths and we are concerned with traffic matting. What do you think?

  136. Posted by Donna on July 22, 2010 at 2:27 am

    Thank you sooo much and I’m glad you’re familiar with Kelly’s, that helps me make up my mind on who to go with. You are GREAT!!! I will tell Mike what you said and I’m sure he’ll give a big THANKS!!

  137. Posted by CarpetGirl on July 22, 2010 at 1:00 pm

    Linda –

    Organic is a good bit heavier at 60 ounces…PM is 48. Both are solid options and I think they’d be fine for the application – BUT going heavier is never a bad thing.


  138. Posted by CarpetGirl on July 22, 2010 at 1:01 pm

    Donna –

    He’s a doll:)


  139. Thank you–I ordered the Organic today–I appreciate your help.

  140. Posted by Sheila Rhodes on September 9, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    Another carpet question. I was on another Q&A site yesterday and the person on this site seems to be very against the polyester/SmartStrand type carpets because of matting and flattening (although he agrees it is soft). I’m looking for carpeting for our bedroom. Household is 2 adults and several cats. I like soft because I go barefoot often. And the cats seem to prefer carpet as the preferred vomiting place :-). So I know I want the moisture barrier pad. So far I’ve liked Organic Luxury, which appears to be the same thing as Yours Affectionately at another store. I’ve also looked at a nylon carpet by Shaw (sorry don’t have the name right now). I really like the SmartStrand, but I’m concerned about the resiliency compared to nylon. I don’t want to replace the carpet any sooner than I have to. Thanks for any advice you have. Sheila

  141. Posted by CarpetGirl on September 13, 2010 at 5:59 pm

    Sheila –

    SmartStrand is a type of polyester but it is not the same kind associated with matting/crushing. That is frankly why the FTC gave it a new name of Triexta to help eliminate the confusion between the two types. The perfomance is the same if not slightly better than nylon 6.6 when it comes to wear…it is far superior in terms of stain resistance. Fortunately we have machines to simulate years and years of walking so we know this to be true…sometimes people on these sites just have to wait and see if there will be an issue, so I can understand that they just don’t know becuase they haven’t seen it. I’ve seen it.

    The Shaw piece is likely an Anso nylon 6 carpet. Nylon 6 is generally accepted as not being quite as resilient as nylon 6.6. (Stainmaster for instance is 6.6.) I too, am not a huge fan of PET polyester in carpeting…not that it is a bad product but there are better ones, but as you can tell I am a huge fan of SmartStrand. If you have issues with the cats – I assure you that the nylon will need replacing much sooner than the SmartStrand.

    Luck – CG

  142. Posted by Paul on October 3, 2010 at 1:10 am

    Carpet Girl,

    Can you tell me where the Mohawk Smartstrand “Intelligent Style” resides in the quality scale of the Mohawk Smartstrand brand. This is definitely a plush carpet, however looking on the Mohawk website it is somewhat difficult to see if this is considered their high-end product, low end or some where in the middle. Any help would be appreciated. And if there is a High-End Smartstrand brand please let me know the style name.

    Thanks for your help in advance.

  143. Posted by Cautious on October 4, 2010 at 2:15 pm

    I have a dog, cat, and a couple teenagers. We steam clean our light beige carpeting about once or twice a year. I want a very light colored carpeting again. I know the smartstrand sounds good for stains, but what about general dirt? When the dog has dirty feet and gets on the carpet before we can wipe the paws off, or the kids track dirt on it? Is there any easy method to clean the carpet on my own? Also – we do use throw rugs at the entrances to help keep dirt from tracking on the carpet. I was told it was a bad idea to use throw rugs, that they wear down the carpeting. Is this true?

  144. Posted by CarpetGirl on October 5, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    Paul –

    IS is a 60 ounce texture so I would certainly put that toward the higher end of SmartStrand styles. I think the heaviest we offer is 80 ounces through Karastan. Lightest is probably 32.


  145. Posted by CarpetGirl on October 5, 2010 at 3:01 pm

    Cautious –

    Walkoff mats are typically recommended so I am not sure why you would have been told they are a bad idea. It is the single best way to prevent soiling that I know of. Throw rug to me, means rubber backed – not hard like your carpeting is. If that is what you mean, you’ll be fine. If it is a hard backed area rug – simply get a pad that is made to go over carpeting. They are pretty readily available and will protect the carpet from the abrasiveness of the backing.

    SmartStrand should be no better and no worse for general soiling than what you currently have. We have found it to clean up slightly better than other fibers from soil, but you would not notice a difference. If you clean once or twice a year, plan to keep that up. As far as cleaning yourself goes, I rarely recommend it for anything more than spot cleanings. Store rentals are usually not the best quality and leave the carpet wetter than it should be. Household models like bissell – again only for spot cleaning. Pros have better systems, better chemicals and hotter water. Most warranties are voided unless you have the capret professionally cleaned every 12-18 months anyway. Do only hot water extraction – I don’t like dry methods. It’s worth the cost to protect your investment.


  146. Posted by Cautious on October 5, 2010 at 4:46 pm

    Yes, I was told the abrasiveness of the backing could wear on the carpet, plus flatten it down. Perhaps I missed the part about the backing. I was also told last night by a salesperson that for spot cleanings a good way to do it is to rent one of those hand held tools and only use water, not the detergent. The detergent may attract dirt.
    I was out and about looking at carpeting last night. Nothing is as soft as Smartstrand. Unfortunately, I am not finding the colors I want. I did find at Home Depot Platinum Plus light carpeting that has suble flecks in it (Rice Pudding) which is what I was looking for. The saleslady was telling me Plat Plus had lifetime stain warranty also and was just as good, but I’m not sure and I do want Smartstrand. I also saw some “tone on tone” in a different brand that i liked. These seem like they would hide dirt a bit better than just plain. Do you know if Smartstrand makes something similar and the local store just doesn’t carry it? The only flecked Smartstrand I see is flecked with very contrasting colors. I did find some “Command Performance” and “Amon Pass” that appears to have a little contrast or shading that I like, they don’t seem quite as solid.
    It’s difficult to explain what I am looking for, but hoping you understand and perhaps can help.

  147. Posted by CarpetGirl on October 5, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    Cautious –

    You can get a small green machine at walmart for about $100…might be smarter to buy. Detergent left in the carpet always attracts soil. Even when you get a professional to clean it, ask for a full water rinse.

    Home Depot has a smaller selection than a flooring store. I believe Platinum Plus is mostly nylon…definitely not as good. Try a flooring store that has a SmartStrand colorwall. There are a few fleck products in that. Odds are anyone that has the colorwall will have the most complete selection of products. You should be able to find something you like. Not aware of any tone-on-tone at this point.


  148. Posted by Cautious on October 5, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    What exactly is a colorwall? I did call a store and ask…their response was “we carry that brand and we have samples” and didn’t seem to know what a colorwall was. I was in that store a year ago and they didn’t seem to have any bigger selection than Home Depot. Both have maybe 15 sample boards with a bunch of tiny little color squares on them. We live in a small town. I am trying to find out if it would be worth my while to drive an hour and a half to a nearby big city if I would find more???

    And thanks for all your help 🙂 The Wal-Mart machine sounds like it may be a good idea. And I didn’t know about the full water rinse. Will make sure I get that next time. Our carpet is old now, but I do think dirt sticks to it a lot easier than it used to.

  149. Posted by CarpetGirl on October 5, 2010 at 7:08 pm

    Cautious –

    Our colorwall is a large display that holds something like 8 styles…all of which are available in the same colorline of 60+ colors. I tried to find a picture but I wasn’t able to quickly. Given the size of this thing – your dealer would know if they have it. Visit and do a dealer locator. Pick a dealer and then choose smartstrand with Sorona as they fiber you’d like to look for. There should be a style drop down list. That will give you a better idea of the selection that store has. Odds are if you choose a floorscapes dealer, they will have a colorwall – but give them a ring anyway. It’s hard for me to give you a list of styles because each store is different depending on which one you choose to view…but if you see any of these – there is a colorwall there: Intelligent Style, Organic Luxury, Posh Origins, Plush Aesthetic, Mode Elegance.

    Luck – CG

  150. Posted by Cautious on October 6, 2010 at 1:37 pm

    Thanks! I did find two places within an hour that have a colorwall. Will both places have the exact same colorwall, or do they vary from store to store…as the samples seem to.
    I have some small sample boards from two carpet places. From one store they are named Sheer Ecstasy, Windwalker and Sacred Star. The ones from Home Depot are called Amon Pass and Commander I&II and Commander III. These look very similar. Are any of these the same and could you tell me which ones? With tiny little samples on the boards, I am having trouble figuring it out.
    And now the last question. I like the feel and plushness of the Sheer Ecstasy. But I am wondering how it will hold up to traffic over the years, and if I should go with a shorter fiber. We will install this on some steps. After next year, all the kids will be off to college, so it is just my husband and myself but we will be going up the steps to enter the house.

  151. Posted by CarpetGirl on October 6, 2010 at 2:16 pm

    Cautious –

    Unfortunately I do not have any Home Depot info – sorry. Check color numbers, if those are the same there is a good chance the styles are too.

    Sheer is a 75 ounce texture. Doesn’t get much heavier than that in our line unless you look at Karastan. Given the amount of fiber in the carpet, I don’t expect there to be any issues with traffic. Do give the big sample a bend to make sure you like the look of how it would wrap around the stair treads. I don’t expect it here but sometimes with less dense styles, you can see backing when it is wrapped.

    Congrats on the soon to be empty nester status. We entered that realm this year. Hasn’t helped our carpet or our wallet any, but the kids are enjoying themselves and so are we!


  152. Posted by CarpetGirl on October 6, 2010 at 2:18 pm


    forgot the colorwall question. The colorwalls will essentially be the same. Though the carpet names could be different, they all hold the same styles and the colors are the same as well.


  153. Posted by Peggy on October 7, 2010 at 4:35 pm

    Hello, I have Smartstrand cut and loop in my office/computer room. It is looking matted and worn for about three to four feet into the room at the door entry.. This after only two months. Do you have any suggestions?

  154. Posted by CarpetGirl on October 7, 2010 at 5:51 pm


    Thought you had chosen Cohler? What is the style? This part of the “wrong pad” purchase as well?


  155. Posted by Cautious on October 12, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    Good morning! Ok…I went to look at the color wall. It’s great, but more confusion. At one carpet place, we were deciding between Windwalker and Sheer Ecstacy, and I picked out some colors. The color wall had Supreme Style, which we though may be close. When the lady called the dealer to cross reference the color, style of Windwalker and Sheer Ecstacy with what was on the color wall, she was told they were not the same.
    I am so confused!
    This is the problem. The carpet place that handles Windwalker and Sheer Ecstasy is a small shop with just a few samples. The saleslady told me that I may not like Sheer Ecstasy, because it will show the footprints and vaccuum marks. That’s fine with me. But she said it will also show paths where we walk and people don’t like that. I am fine with footprints, but she makes it sound like there will be visible paths in the carpet and it may look ” worn”. She said she didn’t know how it would look after a couple years.
    Now the lady with the color wall says she sells a lot of the Supreme Style and people love it.
    So are we talking about two radically different carpets? Or two radically different salesladies?

  156. Posted by CarpetGirl on October 12, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    Cautious –

    Not seeing Supreme Style…did you happen to mean Superior Style? If so, that would match up with Sheer. There is no match for Windwalker. The closest would be Organic Luxury which is a few ounces heavier.

    I have heard that some people see footprints in some of the heavier styles like this. Footprints does not equal wear patterns. Not one bit. So I’d say you have two different sales people.


  157. Posted by Cautious on October 14, 2010 at 3:13 pm

    Thanks again. I wrote down supreme, but it could have been superior. So basically what I am hearing from you is that there is no real big difference between the ones we mentioned.

    Pick out the color we like, the store we want to work with, and stop agonizing over it 😉

  158. Posted by CarpetGirl on October 14, 2010 at 3:35 pm

    Cautious –

    LOL…kind of, yes! You have made good choices and I think you’ll be happy with any of them. Probably most important, now, is to pick the right store. That gets rid of most of the agonizing right there!


  159. Posted by Jeff on October 18, 2010 at 4:24 pm

    We’ve found several styles of Mohawk SmartStrand that we like and are trying to decide between textured and a short-to-medium pile freize. We have cats that are not declawed. Would one or the other type (textured or freize) be better for us, or would either work well? We wonder if the cats’ claws could unravel the twists in freize carpet. Also, which type cleans up more easily when pets have their inevitable “accidents”?

    One more questions: None of the carpet samples displayed in the stores we have visited include information about density, twist turns or weight. Where do we find this information?

  160. Posted by Cautious on October 19, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    OK….pad question. We have our choice between an 8# rebonded waterproof 1/2 inch pad. They assure us this is a very good pad. Or we could go with an anti-microbial, odor control, moisture barrier at 10-11# and 7/16 thick at a higher price.
    She did say both of them have a different feel and we should come in and walk on them.
    We do have a dog and a cat.
    Is there really any difference between the two pads as far as functionality goes? Or does it just boil down to which one feels better on our feet?
    And thanks again!

    BTW – we are going with Sheer Ecstasy.

  161. Posted by CarpetGirl on October 19, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    Cautious –

    As long as there is a moiture barrier, there is little difference besides feel. If you have a moisture barrier and you clean up the messes, the rest should not really matter.


  162. Posted by CarpetGirl on October 19, 2010 at 8:37 pm

    Jeff –

    There will be little to no difference on the tufts of the frieze versus the texture from the cats. The cats might find the frieze a little more fun to play with though…then your issue is them pulling tufts out altogether.

    Your sales person can call Mohawk or go online for the spec info.


  163. Posted by Dan on October 28, 2010 at 1:23 am

    I have a quick question as I am not sure I trust some of the people I am talking to about carpet. I picked out a carpet, the Karastan “Mamma Mia” and I am getting price ranges from $43-50 a yard. First I am not going to be here for more than 7 years, is it too nice a capet? Second, is that carpet ok for stairs? Third how thick of pad do I need?

    Also, someone quoted me a carpet called Vision but I don’t know anything about it. It was significantly less than the other carpet but you can tell because it is not as full/soft. Any idea on this?

    Finally, can I buy the Karastan carpet on line or am I better going local?

    Thanks very much, your post is incredibly informative!

  164. Posted by CarpetGirl on October 28, 2010 at 5:30 pm

    Dan –

    Mamma Mia is as heavy as they get – 95 ounces of pure, barefoot bliss. The quotes seem reasonable for the quality. My question for you is whether you want the best for while you are there to enjoy or if you are truly just needing something good enough? 7 years is a pretty long time to me, and the fact that you picked Mamma tells me you skew toward higher end…but you could certainly choose a lighter weight, save some money and likely be just as happy. It’ll be fine on stairs and for pad…go with a 10lb density in 1/2 inch thickness.

    No clue what Vision is. It’s not Karastan that’s for sure and possibly not even Mohawk since it isn’t on my product grid.

    There could be dealers that sell Karastan online, but keep in mind that there are less than 2000 Karastan dealers in the country. But try a google search.


  165. Posted by Jill Roblyer on October 30, 2010 at 12:15 am

    Hi Carpet Girl,

    I just installed Mohawk Smartstrand. Our salesperson asked what vacuum we had and cringed a bit when I said Dyson. She said “Use it only without the beater bar.” Okay, so, did a bit more research (using the dyson w/out the beater bar doesn’t seem to work.) Called Mohawk…unable to recommend any specific vacuum, but they sent me to the Carpet and Rug Institute….Advisor said get a canister vacuum – preferably one that is commercial grade! WHAT! I’m not carrying a backpack while vacuuming my house. Any advice on what type of vacuum cleaner for Smartstrand? We have the textured saxony?

  166. Posted by CarpetGirl on November 1, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    Jill –

    The CRI (Carpet and Rug Institute) Seal of Approval Program for vacuums hasn’t been around all that long and you’ll notice with the exception of Oreck, there really aren’t any names you’d recognize…so though I think it’s a great program, I don’t put a lot of stock in it for homes – YET. I am not sure why your salesperson had an issue with Dyson. I know a few people here that have one AND SmartStrand and love the results. Just be sure that the beater bar is correctly positioned to just brush the very top of the carpet…this is true for any carpet – not just SmartStrand. The heat and force of that hard brush could damage the tufts if it goes too deep into the pile. It it becomes difficult to move the machine – the brushes need to be raised.

    I use a Kenmore canister – not a backpack:) – with a beater bar and have had no issues.


  167. Posted by enaxor on November 1, 2010 at 7:00 pm


    I installed Beach Basics (1 1/4 inch Frieze) in my house, about a year ago. I too had a Dyson and tried vacuuming without the beater bar. I came to the same conclusion, it doesn’t really work. I ended up buying a Sanitaire upright, that I can control the height manually (Dyson is automatic height adjustment, that really doesn’t work). I was told by a carpet salesperson that if I used my Dyson, it would void my warranty. So far the Sanitaire seems pretty good, but it’s a basic vacuum, no tools.

    As for the Beach Basics carpet, I still love the feel of it, but have noticed high traffic areas show some fraying of the twists, which is a bit of a disappointment.

  168. Posted by Jill Roblyer on November 2, 2010 at 2:18 am

    Hi CG,

    Thanks for the note. I’m looking into the Kenmore Canister. Are you afraid you may void your warranty on smartstrand by using a vacuum with a beater bar?

    Which Kenmore canister do you have?


  169. Posted by CarpetGirl on November 2, 2010 at 1:05 pm

    Jill –

    Visit The warranties are there under carpet…look at the section for carpet care and guidelines. A beater bar is recommended in most scenarios. It is only with certain styles and when you can tell your vacuum is damaging the carpet that they recommend not using the beater bar. Textures are not on the list of styles that should not use the bar.

    My Kenmore is old and though I do not have the model I am pretty sure that you couldn’t buy the same one now. I only do the canister because of my hard surface floors. I think it cleans those better than an upright – I can move it around better.


  170. Posted by Dorothy on November 3, 2010 at 4:11 pm

    I have been reading on the net that the “Dyson Cyclonic Vacuum” is hard to push on SmartStrand Intelligent Carpeting. I also read the “Seaming” with SmartStrand is difficult for the carpet layers.
    I have read that people are complaining that the seams show. I just bought a “Hoover WindTunnel Bagless Cyclonic Vac”. The suction is tremendous. I find that with the carpeting that I presently have, the Dust Cup is full of Carpet Fibers. Is this ruining my carpet?
    Is my WindTunnel Cyclonic safe to use on SmartStrand Intelligent Carpeting? I e-mailed Mohawk and the sent me to a web-site CRI listing their GREEN Vacs that work the best. No Bagless Vac is on their CRI list.
    Now in regard to the seams, can the carpet installers lay SmartStrand without showing the seams?
    Also, Do “Footprints” show on SmartStrand Inelllegent carpet?
    I want to be happy with my choice of new carpeting, and do not want a bunch of issues and then regretting my choice of carpeting.

  171. Posted by CarpetGirl on November 4, 2010 at 5:12 pm


    Seems like the issue with Dyson is that you can’t raise and lower the head to make up for carpet pile differences. That would make it hard to push on any carpet frankly. It’s not a SmartStrand issue.

    Seaming is the same regardless of fiber type as well. If seam show on a cut pile carpet, it is the installers fault, always. Patterns are harder but my seam look just fine.

    As for your Hoover. I don’t know what kind of carpet you have. There are fibers that we call “staple” which are short and could be what you are seeing. If you continue to see them in large amounts, you could have an issue, but typically it stops after you remove the ones that are free. Could juts be that you never removed them when it was new. I can see no reason why your vacuum is not fine to use. As I have mentioned in other notes, be sure that the beater bar is only hitting the very top of the carpet – otherwise it could be doing damage.

    Footprints – other commenters have said that they do see footprints on Intelligent Style. I personally ahve not seen it down, so I take their word on that.


  172. Posted by Chris on November 14, 2010 at 8:23 am

    I am about to decide on carpet for our family, living room and bedroom and leaning towards the SmartStrand. I really like the look of the frieze 1166 Enlightened Decor /564 Refined beige. But it seems light weight. Is this expected with a frieze or is there another heavier or more dense option I should consider? I have two dogs that like to run and play in the house so I am concerned about the durability.


  173. Posted by CarpetGirl on November 15, 2010 at 2:41 pm

    Chris –

    Enlightened is a 45 ounce frieze. There are certainly heavier weight ones, though not on the colorwall – which is where enlightened resides. The benefit to the frieze is the higher level of twist…so even at 45 ounces, I think you’ll be ok.


  174. Posted by CarpetGirl on November 19, 2010 at 5:13 pm

    For Steve –

    I recieved a post from a fellow named Steve that I am opting not to approve, because I like to keep this blog positive. Not sure what your beef is fella because frankly it made no sense. If I have said I have no info on something it is a specific style that is not on my list for which someone is requesting weight, density, twist etc. I am not a retailer and I have no reason not to cover any retail outfit including Carpet One. Please take the rants elsewhere.

    Respectfully –

  175. On the color wall in our flooring ceter there were two samples that we were interested in, one is organic luxury (1I51) and the other was Superior Style (didn’t get the style #). They didn’t have information on the twist, weight, etc so I thought I would just come home and look it up… I can’t seem to find those names on the Mohawk site. Is the superior style the same as the Sheer Ecstasy?

    The other style that we liked was the Intelligent Style (1I50), but we were hoping for something with a bit more density since we have small children. I think Intelligent style might allow some of the small toys (legos, etc) to fall down in the carpet? Two small kids, one dog, very high traffic area in the small room, the other room would be the family room with moderate traffic. Any suggestions/information appreciated.


  176. Posted by Rachel on November 23, 2010 at 12:47 am


    Wish I had found this website a month ago. I hope I never have to buy carpet again. That said, you are an amazing wealth of information!. Thank you!!

    Single, no pets or kids, and no idea how long I”ll stay in my house….but I need/want decent, neutral carpet that will clean easily, resist stains and wear. I’m carpeting two bedrooms, a loft, and two staircases….about 110 sq. yd.

    Each time I decide on a carpet type, some salesperson tells me something else that sways me a different way. And WHY is it so difficult to get the “stats” on density, twist, etc. from anywhere other than the “big box” stores?!?!

    SO… I’m looking at Smartstrand, but not thrilled with the warranty (vs. ANSO nylon vs Stainmaster). Prorated, labor not included, stairs excluded etc. WHY?

    If I can get past that….I’m shopping at Carpet Exchange where the names of carpets don’t seem to match online stuff on Mohawk website or your posts. Looking at a Karastan that is called “Earth Shaking” in either “Cracked Reed” or “Buff” vs. two other Smartstrand carpets called “Guided Vision” in “Crescent” and/or “Guided Vision II” in ” Magnolia Bud”.

    The Guided Vision II feels great but I believe it’s a slightly lower face weight and twist vs. Guided Vision. The price difference between the Karastan and the Guided Vision II is about $1000 for my house installation. The Guided Vision is right between them…but I”m not as crazy about the color choice (can probably live with it though).

    Any info, advice, etc.?

    Incidentally, ONE carpet dealer when asked about twist and density told me it “wasn’t important”, and when pressed, told me that a couple of the Stainmaster nylon carpets I was looking at (NO frieze’s or “wormy” ones) had a twist of 7 and 8. Is this even possible/probable in a plush?!?

    That same dealer (who doesn’t sell Smartstrand) told me the Smartstrand would fray terribly…had a display with it next to a Stainmaster nylon showing a horribly matted and frayed swatch of Smartstrand (supposedly.) The Smartstrand dealer (Carpet Exchange) knew about the display….said it compared a much lesser quality Smartstrand piece of carpet. Nonetheless…it sure made me wonder about wear issues.

    Any comments or advice would be appreciated. Can’t take this decision process anymore!.



  177. Posted by CarpetGirl on November 23, 2010 at 7:44 pm

    NC –

    Apologies on the site issues – drives me nuts. You’ll need to choose your same dealer in order to see the styles you mentioned. Your dealer is a Floorscapes account with specific styles. Sheer Ecstasy is the Horizon style. Organic and Intelligent are different brands of a similar style. There is more weight to Superior than Organic.

    A lot of folks have commented on footprints with Intelligent, but I don’t think you’ll lose stuff in it. The denser you go the less softness you get, so there is a bit of a tradeoff there. Ask to see Fountainebleau…it’s about as dense a SmartStrand as you’ll find. And you’ll see what I mean about the softness. I’d go with Superior.


  178. Posted by CarpetGirl on November 23, 2010 at 8:15 pm

    Rachel –

    Let’s see, lots to cover here.

    Given your position…single, no kids, might not stay long…don’t overpay for a carpet. Neutral is smart and something between 40 and 50 ounces is all you need. I also don’t think you need to pay the Karastan premium, you can find just as good for less money. If you were looking for heavier, then Karastan makes sense.

    Shocked that someone would tell you twist and density is not important…not shocked that you are getting mixed signals. Sorry for that but not shocked. And nice instinct on the 7 and 8 twist levels. No way a non-frieze has that much twist. NO WAY!

    Exchange labels styles with their own names so I have no clue what you’re looking at unfortunately. The sales person should be able to call MHK for you and ask for density, twist and weight if they don’t have them already.

    I know the “display” you are talking about. The Stainmaster folks are not huge fans of SmartStrand because it is taking business from them….so they took two completely different constructions and did a caster test to them. Chair casters kill any carpet but when you do a 50 ounce against a 25 ounce the 25 doesn’t stand a chance. It is designed to confuse you and frankly it’s bogus.

    I’m checking into the warranty questions. I know there have been some changes to the SmartStrand warranties that are likely not on the samples. As soon as I hear back on those, I’ll let you know. For now…be sure you read all the literature closely…there are significant limitations including cleanings…be aware of all of those.


  179. Posted by Rachel on November 23, 2010 at 8:46 pm


    Actually several salespeople at different carpet dealers have told me density and twist didn’t matter. SIGH.

    If I can believe Carpet Exchange’s numbers (unlike the other salesperson whose numbers were definitely wrong)…

    The Karastan is a 65 oz, 3357 Density, 6.5 twist. It’s a cut pile (I think), color “Buff” or “Cracked Reed”. It’s on sale for $29.99/sq. yd.

    The Guided Vision is a 57 oz. 3080 Density, 6.5 twist. It’s a cut pile in “Crescent”. It’s $25.99/sq. yd.

    The Guided Vision II is a 49 oz., 3005 Density, 5.5 twist. It’s a cut pile in “Magnolia Bud”. It’s $21.99/sq. yd.

    I believe all of them are SmartStrand Sorona, several of the sample labels are too old to reflect current warranty information. The Karastan has a slightly better warranty than the other two for texture retention, abrasion, etc. ; the cheaper two carry the “no buckle no delamination” warranty sticker for the backing in addition to all the other warranty info.

    The least expensive choice would save me close to $1000 on my install (I need about 110 sq yd)…but I was worried about the lower face weight and twist as compared to the other two choices. The Karastan is really nice…but maybe overkill for my situation?

    As for the warranties…I do keep reading…that’s why so confused! Any info you can get will help. It seems like a lot of problems with carpet that lead to warranty claims are ultimately blamed on poor install, poor cleaning, or poor maintenance….ie, good luck ever getting the carpet company to actually come through?!?! So maybe I should just choose something decent and stop worrying about warranty claims. No idea how I can control or know that the install or cleaning was done correctly

    Thanks again for any info or advice.


  180. Posted by CarpetGirl on November 23, 2010 at 9:54 pm

    Rachel –

    Go with Guided Vision…the 6.5 turns of twist is important. The slight difference in density not as much.

    I did get an email back on warranties…let me say this – anything over 5 or 10 years is overkill. You are going to get bored with the carpet before the warranty ends anyway. And frankly I think long warranties oversell the product. Carpet is not going to look new for a lifetime. The term “normal wear” means that they are warranting that the carpet will look 20 years old at 20 years…not that it looks new, so I think long warranties lead to more dissatisfaction than satisfaction and too high of expectations. All that said…SmartStrand warranties are being updated come Jan 1. So if the coverage is important to you…consider waiting until Jan 1 since I don’t think it will be retro to the purchase date but it will cover all styles.


  181. Posted by Rachel on November 24, 2010 at 6:28 pm

    THANK YOU SO MUCH for your responses…such a help! I’ve got the Carpet Exchange folks scrambling for information, but will most likely go with the Guided Vision carpet choice….(just might wait till January). One final (I hope) question…..I just saw the information on Mohawk’s “smart cushion” carpet pad. Carpet Exchange does not carry the pad; they use another 8 lb 1/2″ pad with moisture barrier (that’s supposedly ordered from Mohawk). They said they could check with Mohawk about getting the Smart Cushion pad instead…no idea yet if that will be possible nor how much it will cost. Is it worth the extra $$$ to get the Mohawk pad?



  182. Posted by CarpetGirl on November 29, 2010 at 4:32 pm

    Rachel –

    The Smart Cushion will enhance your warranties a bit. If they can’t get it, the pad they have sounds fine. The key is a moisture barrier!


  183. Posted by Cautious on November 30, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    We love our new carpeting and thanks for all your help. I have another question that perhaps you can help me with as I don’t seem to find much info on-line. We have a piano that will be on this carpeting. We may or may not keep it for a long time so I don’t want to ruin the carpeting by having indents. Do those casters work? Is there anything we can do to avoid permanent indentation?

  184. Posted by CarpetGirl on November 30, 2010 at 8:51 pm

    Cautious –

    Interesting question. A heavy weight over a long period of time is going to leave an indentation. You can try repositioning, but I’m afraid you would have to do it rather often because it is so heavy. It will certainly come back some, but I am not sure it will come back completely. My best recommendation is to move the piano often and to steam clean or at least try steaming the carpet when you do find an indentation….now don’t try it with an iron that releases steam – you are more likely to burn the tufts than steam them. The steam will help to bring back the bulk of the yarn…sort of like a perm.

    If you have a piano guy…ask him for recommendations too. There could be something you can place underneath that works that I am unaware of.


  185. Thanks for letting me know about choosing the store, that helped me find the information on Organic. However, I was still unable to find anything on Superior Style, am I missing it in that store styles or is it listed as something else?

    On top of that my wife just brought home another sample called Supreme Intellect and I can’t find it on the website either. Although it looks almost identical to the Quarry sample she already brought home. Of course she wanted me to tell her the difference between the two… I never knew that carpet was so secretive, it makes me want to put in hardwood and tile for the rest of the floor!

    So would you be able to help me figure out how to find Superior Style and Supreme Intellect on the website as well? Many thanks!


  186. Posted by CarpetGirl on November 30, 2010 at 9:42 pm

    NC –

    Oddly tile and hardwood are as complicated. I know, I know…no need to rpeach to the choir.

    I went online and that style simply doesn’t appear to be online right now. Not sure why but I don’t see it at all. Supreme is the same as Superior but under a different brand (Horizon). Both are 75 ounces.


  187. Posted by Cheryl on December 1, 2010 at 3:59 am

    Reading this has helped me a lot! I have picked out Karastan carpet choices from The Great Indoors for bedrooms, hall and stairs – Karastan Tuscan Nights OR Karastan Exciting.

    On the advice you have provided, I emailed our salesperson asking for the Twist, Weight and Density. The salesperson replied – “Karastan does not give out the Twist, Weight and Density of their carpet, but the company rep has told us that the weight of the exciting carpet is 80#.”

    How can that be? Should I go somewhere else? Can you help direct me on how I can find out this information????


  188. Posted by CrushedMatt on December 2, 2010 at 5:58 am

    I can hardly keep my eyelids open but couldn’t stop reading these informative posts. We mainly want something that isn’t going to “crush & mat”; hence the name above. We have a small place so our traffic patterns are the same over and over again. It’s just my husband and me so we are not as concerned about stain resistance as we are about the crushing & matting. We also want something that feels soft. We want a very light flecked frieze. Can you recommend a pile height (or weight?) we should go with? Home Depot has a good selection but the higher, denser friezes I’m afraid would “lay down” unless we vacummed everyday. Am I correct? If we choose a 40 weight it seems it would feel like walking on moss covered cardboard. The higher weights (50-60) feel wonderful and seem very dense but really concerned about the laying down of the fibers. Also, what is the difference between Smartstrand w/ Dupont as opposed to just Smartstrand? Quality? Price? 3 feathers/2 feathers? Maybe I should have picked the name “confused”. Looking forward to your expertise.

  189. Posted by CrushedMatt on December 2, 2010 at 6:12 am

    Oh, one more thing. I have a sample of Mohawk Floorscapes #6261 Casual Occasion; color Nature’s Blend #109. It says PTT, BCF Polyester but it says it’s Smartstrand. Is this ok? I’m picking up 2 more samples tomorrow when they get them in.

  190. Posted by CarpetGirl on December 2, 2010 at 1:27 pm


    Loved the name btw…very clever! Pile heights vary so much and frankly don’t matter that much in the scheme of things. The friezes by nature are less dense…it’s the density that allows them to flow freely and unfortunately lay down a bit – BUT the extra twist helps keep them up. The tight twist makes the carpet look a little “wormy” and you overlook the footprints – but they are there. Ask for something around 50 ounces with at least 6.5 turns of twist. If stain resistance is not a primary concern, take a look at nylon as well as the SmartStrand products. Both withstand matting and crushing well and you might find more fleck options in the nylons.

    On the SmartStrand questions…DuPont Sorona is bio-based and those products tend to be a little higher end, heavier and with more styling. SmartStrand non-Sorona is not bio-based, tend to be lighter in weight and fewer styling options. The warranties tend to be better on DuPont Sorona styles because the styles are higher end. SmartStrand is a PTT polyester – not a PET polyester. The samples you have are older and were in the store before the Federal Trade Commission ruled that PTT should be called Triexta instead of polyester. It’s definitely SmartStrand – no worries.


  191. Posted by CarpetGirl on December 2, 2010 at 1:30 pm

    Cheryl –

    I am not ignoring you, I have some feelers out. My first instinct is that you have an ill-informed salesperson, but I am checking with the Karastan team just in case what he says is true. Exciting is not on my style list…Tuscan is and it shows to be 80 ounces.

    Stay tuned – CG

  192. Posted by Belinda on December 2, 2010 at 8:21 pm

    CarpetGirl,love your informative site! Now help out a confused consumer. My Mohawk carpet store (small owner) has limited stock he has been in business for 40 years and only carries what sells, we have trusted him before. Other big carpet stores want to sell me everything but Smartstrand carpeting! At my small carpet store, I have choosen between Alladin’s Miami Shores, color:morning sun, with 100%Smartstrand BCF Triexta, or South Padre Island’s, colors: folklore or coastal sands with Smartstrand BCF Triexta Sonora now please help: are the face weights similar they feel the same, and the twists as well would one wear better than the other, we have stairs, one cat, one dog, grandboys sometimes, and what ounce pad my guy says 6lb ok don’t need moisture barrier. Help!!! My husband is on my butt to go purchase and I am confused!! Picking a neutral frieze with fleck was stressful enough as you can see what I finally came up with. Thank you ahead for your response and great work.

  193. Posted by CarpetGirl on December 2, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    Cheryl –

    My instincts are wrong…they don’t give stores info other than weight. Feeling is that more goes into the performance than the numbers – which is true, but I am still surprised. None of us are finding Exciting on any lists, so I am thinking it is a private label that the dealer uses, but he buys it from us under another name. 80 ounces is a CHUNK of carpet, you should have no issues with it.


  194. Posted by CarpetGirl on December 2, 2010 at 8:40 pm

    Belinda –

    These are my favorite kind of dealer…small, reputable and in for the long haul! Love it! Alos must say I got a chuckle out of your husband being on your butt…they are so helpful sometimes, huh?!?

    Weights for those two are really close…Padre is 55 ounces and Miami is 53oz. I don’t have the twist levels on my sheet, but I do know that both are great styles that have been in the line for quite a while. Padre was one of our first intros and always a good seller.

    I disagree with the pad choice, sorry. 6 pound is minimum spec and though it does have a softer feel than an 8 or 10 since it is less dense, it will not support the carpet as well in the long run. Go at least 8 and with the pets, insist on moisture barrier. The might not need it now, but likely will as they get older.

    You’re doing great – just remember to breathe!


  195. Posted by CrushedMatt on December 6, 2010 at 11:08 pm

    I have 2 carpet samples but they don’t list the density or the twist levels. Could you help with that?
    They are from a Floorscapes dealer:
    1) Style:#6261 Casual Occasion, Color: #109 Nature’s Blend; PTT/BCF Smartstrand
    2) Style:#4096 Long Prairie, Color: #112 Fossil Stone; Smartstrand w/Dupont Sorona
    The dealer says this info is not available to them unlike Home Depot which has these stats on the back of each sample. It is for our entire house…living rm, hall, 2 bedrooms.

  196. Posted by CarpetGirl on December 7, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    Someone asked about 14lb pad but I can’t seem to find the post. If there is a 14 out there it is a synthetic, not a foam or rebond. Synthetics look more like felt and aren’t as cushy. Mostly used for commercial spaces but there is some in residential.


  197. Posted by CarpetGirl on December 7, 2010 at 1:59 pm

    Matt –

    1) Casual – 4.75 twist, 2029 density
    2) Long – 5.5 twist, 1976 density

    I’d chose twist over density.


  198. Posted by Bananas04 on December 14, 2010 at 6:02 pm

    CG – we are looking at installing Smartstrand in our bedrooms and hallway. The dealer gave me the weight and color only (75 oz and Italian suede). Our sample looks very lush and full. Any idea what this might be?

  199. Posted by CarpetGirl on December 17, 2010 at 3:18 pm

    Bananas –

    Hard to say…maybe Supreme Intellect. Why on earth did he not give you a style name? That’s a little shady.


  200. Posted by Bananas04 on December 17, 2010 at 9:28 pm

    You are good! It is supreme intellect. Why am I having a hard time finding that online? Is that something that is carried under another name?

  201. Posted by CarpetGirl on December 17, 2010 at 9:34 pm

    Bananas –

    Occasionally I hit the jackpot:) Likely is a naming issue. The products online are listed according to the store you’ve chosen. If you don’t choose a store you get the Horizon name, which I think is Supreme. I think…


  202. Posted by Infoverload on December 23, 2010 at 12:28 am

    Hi CG!

    You’re a huge help to all of us out there swimming for answers in a sea of misinformation.

    I think I’ve narrowed down my search to the following styles:

    Mohawk superior style
    Mohawk organic luxury
    Karastan frascati
    Karastan embraceable

    Would you be able to tell me the twist, density, and face weight of these styles?


  203. Posted by Infoverload on December 23, 2010 at 9:06 pm

    Oh, and the shop I’m looking at is pushing some no-name pads. One rebond 8lb and one urethane “21lb” — that sounds off to me. Wish i had taken a picture or jotted the name down. They assert that mohawk/karastan pads are not a good value for the customer so they dont offer them. Thoughts?

  204. Posted by CarpetGirl on January 3, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    Info –

    All I have handy for these right now is weight…SS is 75 oz, OL is 60 and Frascati and Embr appear to be the same style at 80 oz. They are all great styles, you’ll be happy with any of them. Feel like we have talked about these styles a ton so scroll or search and see if I dug at some point for more info.

    On the pad…I disagree that our pads are not a good value, especially with the enhanced warranties. I always recommend a moisture barrier with SmartStrand so if he offers a rebond with a barrier you are probably ok. Also have never heard of a 21 lb urethane…must feel like a rock!


  205. Posted by Greg on January 4, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    Looked at Smartstrand at local shop in DE. They called the style “Mode Elegance” and the color “Jute”, any way to shop that at another store as that style and color doesnt appear on Mohawk website. Also carpet is 60 oz weight and notice Mohawk doesnt even post carpet weigths on their website. Any suggestions?

  206. Posted by CarpetGirl on January 5, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    Greg –

    Looks like you were at a Mohawk Signature dealer. The type of dealer determines what names/styles they have. You should be able to find this at any dealer that has a colorwall. Call the locations you are interested in and ask if they carry the SmartStrand Sorona Color Wall. Other options to look for are Intelligent Style or Organic Luxury. Another option is to take the style with you. Dealers hate it but it helps you. Another trick…sometimes color names change but the numbers are the same – unfortunately for this style multiple styles have the same color line because it is part of the colorwall.

    The site doesn’t list weight…at some point in the past, a company, not Mohawk, was sued because the weight noted was rounded up. Weights do vary a little bit from run to run, so we and others have been gunshy to post ever since. Not ideal but it’s a slippery slope.


  207. Posted by Pearl Hall on January 8, 2011 at 12:01 am

    Hello Carpet Girle…..hopefully you can help us…..we have recently purchased Mohawk Smartstrand Etchware for our bedrooms and den….it tracks really, really bad and Mohawk will not stand behind that, they say it is not manufacturing defect. All the literature, and the company we bought it from lead us to think, and I was told, it would not track much. Needless to say, we are very upset, and very disappointed every day we look at it. They are saying now it is characteristic of that carpet…..I said I wanted a carpet that would not track…..why was the literature and company not telling me it would track so badly. In some light it is not so bad but most of the time it shows really bad. Do you know of anything we could do??? They have us over a barrel by saying this is the way it is supposed to be????
    Hope to hear from you soon….Very disappointed Pearl
    We thought we were buying the BEST????

  208. Posted by Kim on January 9, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Hi Carpet Girl,

    Your site has really helped me in narrowing down my carpet choices. Just wondering if you can help me with a few specifications and thoughts on the following 2:

    Smartstrand Elite Dramatic Approach 40 oz (not sure about other specs) &
    Smartstrand Moon Goddess from Home Depot (not sure about specs).

    The application is a main floor living room, family room, play area for a 4 and 6 year old, as well as the main staircase to bedrooms. (We have no pets.) The Moon Goddess definitely has a higher pile, which is nice, but I am concerned about wear/footprints, especially on the stairs. Or if you could suggest something else.

    Would really appreciate it.


  209. Posted by CarpetGirl on January 14, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    Pearl –

    Sorry – been snowed in and am WAY behind in responses…

    When you say track, I assume you mean you can see footprints? You aren’t going to like my answer, I’m afraid. Unfortunately that is a function of the carpet construction you chose. I have a similar pattern down – Magic Isle – and there are footprints, vacuum marks left on it. Doesn’t bother me but does others. I get a lot of comments about footprints and people that don’t like them feel very strongly about it. I am surprised that the sales person wasn’t aware of how footprints would look on that style, though sometimes it is hard to tell until you have seen it down. Most of the time you can put your hand on the sample or even your foot and see the indent left.

    There are not a lot of options, unfortunately. If you hate it and can’t stand to see it in your home another day, sometimes a very calm conversation with the store owner can result in some kind of compromise. It does seem that the product was misrepresented by the sales person and if you were that clear in your expectations, AND the store doesn’t want you bad-mouthing them to your friends – they might be willing to work with you. Leave any negotiations with Mohawk to them – there is no need for you to bother with that. You bought from the store and that sales person. A good starting point is to suggest that you be willing to cover installation costs if they will cover carpet cost.

    I’m sorry you’re disappointed.


  210. Posted by CarpetGirl on January 14, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    Kim –

    Sorry so slow…been snowed in for a while.

    I don’t have info on the Home Depot style. As for Dramatic, I can confirm the 40 ounce spec and tell you it is one of our initial introductions in 2005 so it has had a lot of action over the years and is still a strong seller. I like it as a good, basic textured product. Footprints seem to be a theme today…press into the sample – if you see your handprint, you’ll see your footprint. Wear should be very good…stairs are tough but I am as comfortable with this style as I would be any other.

    Luck –

  211. Posted by Nancy on January 16, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    I am so glad to find your site. I like what I’ve read about SmartStrand. I have two problems in searching for it in carpet stores, however: (1) I’ve found SmartStrand by both Mohawk and Karastan, but unfortunately they were in two different stores, and the Mohawk samples were very small, which makes comparison difficult. Also, (2) I have now found Karastan in a second store, but the style names are different from the first store. I hope you can help me make sense of all of this.

    (1) First, Mohawk vs. Karastan: The styles I’ve looked at are:
    Mohawk Horizon: “Simonton Beach” and “Windwalker”
    Karastan: “Embraceable”, “Essential Living”, and “Woodland Pass”
    Do you know how these compare in weight, twists, density, composition (all contain Sorona?), style (all “frieze”? “cut pile”?), etc.? Is there anything else I’m missing (backing? warranties?) that might make Karastan a better choice than Mohawk?

    (2) The style names at the second Karastan dealer are: “Edleston”, “Edgeworth”, and “Salento”.
    Do these bear any resemblance to Embraceable, Essential Living, and Woodland Pass??

    Thank you so much for any help you can give me in clearing up this carpet mystery.

  212. Posted by Chris on January 16, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    We had the Smartstrand Enlightened Decor frieze in crackled glaze installed just before Christmas. I love it! It is so soft on bare feet and looks great. My dog barfed (one of my pet-related concerns when choosing new carpet) on it yesterday and it was so easy to clean up. Also, spilled wine and it too was easy to clean up with no staining. You can tell we need a durable and stain resistant carpet! The color is great and easy to vacuum with our Dyson Animal (unlike some other comments I saw). Thanks for your assistance CG!

  213. Posted by CarpetGirl on January 17, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    Nancy –

    See if this helps:

    Simonton Beach is a 65 ounce texture
    Windwalker is a 58 ounce texture
    Embraceable and Edgeworth are 80 ounce textures
    Essential and Edleston are 65 ounce textures
    Woodland is a 56 ounce texture
    Salento is a 65 ounce freize

    The construction of Simonton and Essential/Edleston is similar but Simonton is older so the color lines are not as up to date.

    You have really chosen carpets in the same ballpark…the only ones that differ are the 80 ounce ones. IF you can afford that one, it is great on bare feet!

    It is very rare that a Karastan style is also a Mohawk style. We tend to have heavier, more luxurious carpets like the 80 ouncer in Karastan. Some Karastan styles have an upgraded backing as do some Mohawk ones. If the styles are similar and the colors what you want, there is no real reason to choose Karastan over Mohawk in this instance.

    Luck – CG

  214. Posted by CarpetGirl on January 17, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    Chris –

    Glad you are happy…now stop being wasteful and spilling wine!


  215. Posted by Nancy on January 18, 2011 at 2:46 am

    Thank you so much. That is really very helpful.


  216. Posted by Nancy on January 24, 2011 at 12:20 am

    Hi! You answered the questions I had last week about Karastan SmartStrand carpets that I’d found with different style names in two stores, and how they compared to the Mohawk styles that I’d found in a third store. Well, I’ve finally found a carpet store that has both Mohawk and Karastan, but (surprise!) the style names are different than the names in the all the other stores. I was impressed with the most recent store, but I’d like to be sure what carpets I’m really looking at. Do you have any information (weight, twist, etc.) on:

    Karastan: Speranza, Tuscan Nights, Venetian Romance, Belle Villeta. I think the first one is a frieze and the other 3 textures. They were on a display that had 8 different styles hanging in the center with a number of little color samples on either side. I haven’t seen a Karastan display like that before–seemed to be sort of like your description of a Mohawk “colorwall”.

    Mohawk: Guided Vision, Kedge. Based on the color options, I suspect these two styles might be equivalent to Windwalker and Simonton Beach??

    Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.


  217. Posted by CarpetGirl on January 28, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    Nancy –

    You are right on Guided and Kedge.

    Speranza is 65 oz frieze
    Tuscan is an 80 oz texture
    Venetian is a 65 oz tex
    I can’t find Belle on my list so I am not sure what it is.


  218. Posted by Carol on January 29, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    I am trying to decide on a carpet for my newly finished basement. The carpeted areas would be the bedroom with walk-in closet, a large family room, and an office. In our last home we had berber in the basement but our bichon-chitzu got a claw caught and the carpet had quite a bad pull and a run (zippering, I think they call it). My husband, who is retired, uses the family room a lot to watch tv and read. Around his chair where his feet sat wore out within a couple of years. We also have grandchildren, family and friends who visit often. We are leaning to the Sonoroa/Smart Strand, but because it is such a new product we wonder if Nylon, which has proven itself over 40 years, would be the way to go. Our carpet dealer has shown us the one nylon and 3 of the Mohawak. They are:

    Kanastan’s Tuscan Night’s Aged Stucco,
    Mohawk Horizon Siminton Beach’s Oyster and Moonlit Shore
    Mohawk’s Fashion District, Fresh Linen

    Carpet, pad and labour for the Tuscan nights would be $7.20 sq ft (Cdn) while the Simonton Beach would both be $5.67 sq ft. The nylon carpet, Mohawk’s Fashion District is $4.59 sq ft including pad and labour.

    We not only want something that stands up well but looks good as we are trying to do this basement as though it had been finished by the contractor at the time the house was built 2 years ago. It is a bungalow condo and they’ve used all high quality products. My husband and I really like the softness and coziness of the Tuscan Nights but I’m wondering about tracking.

    Can you give me any help choosing which would best suit our needs?


  219. Posted by Tired of shopping for carpet on January 30, 2011 at 5:16 am

    I think I’m in the home stretch on my decision. I’m looking at
    HD Silk III Woodcarving
    Karastan Venetian Romance High Society
    Intelligent Style Curry
    Martha Stewart Anso Nylon Laurelton Hall II (non-Smartstrand)

    Do you have any information on Density or twist for the Smartstrands? The 3 Smartstrand look like the same color but it’s very hard to tell from the small samples. Can you tell me whether these are the same. Are the first three all Dupont Sorona. If not, what’s the difference? Pricing is best for SilkIII, then Intelligent Style, and then Karastan. Karastan has the largest sample size so I’m most comfortable with it, but would rather get a better value if these 3 are the same color and general quality. I’m looking at Martha Stewart – HD Special Buy as it looks more durable but am leaning toward the smartstrand. What are your thoughts on these questions? There are 3 of us in the house with an active cat. I want something that will not ugly out quickly or wear poorly on my stairs (+3 bedrooms & gameroom).
    I have also looked at Exciting but was more worried about it’s wear on Stairs as it did not as thick.
    Thanks for your input!

  220. Posted by Sandi on February 3, 2011 at 2:13 am

    CG, after such great service by our dealer re the problem of edge match now we have yet another. After a couple of months during which our new Edgewoth carpet was able to “uncompress” we found that there were a couple of narrow strips where the fibers were not fully cut. I suspect that using the powerhead on my vaccuum helped them to show. When we reported it to the dealer one of his salesmen said this happens all the time and it just needs to be “sheared”. Another carpet expert said not to do that because the cut area will still never match the rest of the carpet; the fibers won’t “bloom” the same as the original factory cut fibers. He said the factory should replace the flawed carpet since it is a manufacturing defect. What to do? What to do? Any advice? Should an installed carpet ever be sheared? Sandi

  221. Posted by CarpetGirl on February 4, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Carol –

    Sorry – been traveling and I have gotten behind a bit.

    If you can see your hand in it you will see your footprints in it. Without a sample in front of me it is hard for me to tell you which I see my handprint in.

    Zippering happens in loop carpets for the most part…happened in mine. If you go with a full cut pile, there should be no issues.

    There is nothing wrong with nylon BUT it will stain. Been staining for over 40 years. Performance wise – mattings, crushing, wear – nylon and SmartStrand are the same….SS slightly better but only a machine could tell. Sorona has been out for 6 years and is still our lowest claim product line. Issues with nylon are almost always stain.

    Do what makes you feel comfortable but if stain is an issue, I do recommend the SmartStrand product. If it is not an issue – the nylon is fine.

    Luck – CG

  222. Posted by CarpetGirl on February 4, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    Lynn –

    I don’t have any info on HD styles unfortunately and certainly nothing on the Shaw Anso piece. All I know about Silk is that it is a great seller. Intelligent is 60 ounces and Venetian is 65…that is all I have handy on those two as well.

    Everything you are looking at appears to be high end if IS and VR are an indication. I can’t imagine you’ll have any performance issues with any of these choices. The watchout on the nylon, again, is staining. That topical protection will wear away.

    Luck – CG

  223. Posted by CarpetGirl on February 4, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    Sandi –

    I’ve heard of it, but god forbid there be some kind of uneveness to your floor and it not work out and youa re left with a literal mohawk. Talk to the store owner…tell him you have a manufacturing defect and although you hate to be a bother you want it replaced and not a quick fix. And take some close up pictures to have for reference. Defect warranties are typically only 1 year so keep that in mind.

    Luck – CG

  224. Posted by Carol on February 5, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    Thanks CG, for getting back to me and for the info you’ve provided. We went ahead and ordered the Karastan Tuscan Night’s, which is the textured one. Hopefully, it will arrive from the U.S. sometime around the 12th – 14th, and our local carpet company will install it on the 16th. It’s good quality and we are confident that it’s going to give our newly finished basement a very warm, cozy, look & feel. Will let you know how it all turns out.

    Thanks again,

  225. Posted by Ann on February 15, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    I just purchased Mohawk Smartstrand Enlightend Decor in Crackled Glaze. It will be installed with the SmartPad, but the installer didn’t have the other specs you outline in your emails. Can you help? This carpet is being put down in a finished basement that gets very little use (although it might increase as this carpet is incredibly soft!). Where does this carpet “land” as far as elite relative to the others? I still have time to change my order. Thanks-this blog has been incredibly informative!

  226. Posted by CarpetGirl on February 15, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    Ann –

    Enlightened is a 45 ounce frieze – you should be in good shape with this choice.


  227. Posted by Carol on February 18, 2011 at 2:42 am

    Dear C.G. Just a follow up…we had the Karastan, Tuscan Nights installed yesterday and are delighted with it. It’s wonderfully thick and cozy and we definitely are not bothered by the tracking. For us it was the perfect choice. Thanks.


  228. Posted by jay moffett on February 22, 2011 at 2:28 am

    I like Coastal Elegance alot but is there any better. I am interested in the thickest and softest smartstrand shag carpeting available. I really like the smartstrand feel as apposed to a nylon but I really would like your opinion as to an (over-the-top) shag when compared to the more common carpeting that my competition is going with. Please steer me in the right direction.
    Thank You,
    Jay Moffett

  229. Posted by CarpetGirl on February 22, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    Jay –

    What do you do? The competition comment intrigues me. Coastal is a Karastan style 70 or 80 ounces. I like it a lot too. A couple other options depending on the look you ae going for are also Karastan…Tuscan Nights is an 80 ounce texture and Mamma Mia is the mack-daddy at 95 ounces. It does not get better or BIGGER than Mamma.

    Luck – CG

  230. Posted by jay moffett on February 22, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    Hi CarpetGirl,

    I am an builder with an “outside of the box” artistic approach with my projects. I have always loved white carpet but have been fearful about using it because of the maintainance. After watching the Rhino test on the Smartstrand carpet, I no longer have that fear. Is the Mamma Mia a Smartstrand product? Smartstrand will also be featured in my homes because of the more natural and healthier to humans component with less or no possibly damaging stain blocking additives. My ultimate goal is to brand a new look in home design. I feel that this will be facilitated by patenting several of my product ideas, artistic designs, and glazes which I have made that cannot be purchased at any over-the-counter location.

    Thank You for your much appreciated input,

    Jay Moffett

  231. Posted by CarpetGirl on February 22, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Jay –

    It is a SmartStrand Sorona product.


  232. Posted by Nancy on February 28, 2011 at 5:21 am

    You’ve given me information in the past about two Mohawk Smartstrand carpets that we’ve been looking at–Simonton Beach (a 65 ounce texture) and Windwalker (58 ounce texture).

    I’ve now found another Smartstrand option–“Sheer Ecstasy”. It feels denser than Simonton Breach, but I’m not sure why–is it a heavier carpet? a different style (not a texture?)?? The salesperson said it would feel “wonderful” to walk on, but thought I should be aware that it would show footprints and vacuum cleaner marks more than the other two. Would you agree with that?

    Thanks for your help. We are zeroing in on a final choice!


  233. Posted by CarpetGirl on February 28, 2011 at 2:51 pm

    Nancy –

    Sheer is heavier….75 oucnes…still listed as a texture. I would agree with your sales person – sounds like a good one BTW. I’d expect a heavier carpet to have a longer pile and therefore show more footprints if the style is prone to showing prints.

    Luck – CG

  234. Posted by Debra G Foley on March 1, 2011 at 1:30 am

    Hi CarpetGirl,

    Thanks for your great blog. I am looking for carpet that will go in the bedrooms and the formal dinning room (same carpet). The most important factor for me is that the carpet is EXTREMELY comfortable and soft to walk on bare foot, stain resistant, and not too casual or formal (not frieze). I am considering the Karastan Bellingrath from a local store. Is there another Karastan you would suggest instead? Also, there is another store that offers Mohawk. Is there a Mohawk carpet you would recommend that would be SmartStrand and would fit what I am looking for?
    Also, the Karastan store gave me the option of a Karastan pad or a Stainmaster pad. Which would you recommend? Thank you for your help!

  235. Posted by CarpetGirl on March 1, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    Debra –

    Bellingrath is great! It’s really hard for me to define “not too casual or formal”, so I think it’d be best to go look at the Mohawk Selection. In the weight range you are looking at, there are none that I would NOT recommend if they have the look you like. I always recommend a pad with a moisture barrier…so if they both have that, you can go with either.

    Luck – CG

  236. Posted by Debra G Foley on March 1, 2011 at 3:43 pm

    Thanks CG! Do you know the weight range of Bellingrath? I could use it as a comparison point when I look at the Mohawk Selection.

  237. Posted by CarpetGirl on March 1, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    Debra –

    65 ounces…happy hunting!


  238. Posted by Thomina Wells on March 3, 2011 at 4:02 am

    Hope you can help with a question about a replacement of our current Mohawk living room/dining room/stair carpeting. This carpeting was installed in 2005 and was recently water damaged due to a water leak from the kitchen. Since all the carpeting now has to be replaced by home-owners insurance, it is a good time to look at a Mohawk carpet family replacement which uses the Sorona SmartStrand fiber.

    Our current carpeting has the data I have found listed below:

    Mohawk: WundaWeve : Bellisima
    Manufacturer: MOHAWK (ME)
    Product: Bellisima
    Color/Pattern#: 746
    Color Name/Item: Thorn
    Width: 12.0 ft
    Grade: 1st Quality
    Surface Type: Textured Cut Pile
    Gauge: 1/10
    Face Weight: 85.00 oz
    Total Weight: 121.69 oz
    Fiber Brand: XtraLife with Tactesse
    Fiber Content: 100% Nylon

    What would be an equal or better grade of Mohawk Sorona SmartStrand carpeting line(s) which might contain a similar light color such as “Thorn”. Not trying to match the exact color (we could just re-buy the same Bellisima carpet to solve that issue) but would like to know what are the available lines of Sorona SmartStrand carpeting. The only comparison number we are familiar with is the 85oz “face weight”. From your blog it is evident that the “twist” and “density” number are also important, but do not know those values for the Bellisima line of carpet so it is hard to compare. We would like to keep to around the 85oz face weight, if possible…

    Here in Northern Virginia it should be easy to find establishments which carry the various lines of Mohawk branded carpeting, so any information as to a Sorona replacement for the Mohawk WundaWeve “Bellisima” carpeting line (equal or above quality) would be a great help. Just would like to see if a more modern fiber would make a difference.

    Thank you very much for your time,

    Thomina Wells

  239. Posted by j.b. on March 3, 2011 at 8:04 am

    Hi Carpetgirl,
    Thanks for all of the great information! We’re a family of 4 with 2 youngish kids and a small dog. Putting in about 1500sf with heavy traffic on stairs and an occasional dog accident. Leaning towards Sorona Smartstrand and have narrowed it down to 2, Organic Luxury and Bonita Springs (IM84), but am not sure either is heavy enough. Would love your input on whether the density, weight and twists are sufficient, and recommendations for a slightly heavier/thicker carpet. Love the softness of the Sorona. Our local dealer is a floorscapes dealer. Thanks!

  240. Posted by CarpetGirl on March 3, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    Thomina –

    The only SmartStrands available in that high a weight range are in our Karastan line. There is not an 85 ounce but there is one at 80 called Embraceable and a 95 ounce called Mamma Mia. I think you need to see them to determine if you like the styles.


  241. Posted by CarpetGirl on March 3, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    JB –

    Organic is a 60 ounce texture…Bonita is a 58 ounce frieze. Both are great in terms of face weight. Bonita, as a frieze, will have more twist. Depending on which look you prefer, I really think either would work just fine for your home.


  242. Posted by Wendy D on March 4, 2011 at 3:47 am

    Thank you for this blog. I was hoping you can help me. Can you tell me the difference between Karastan Frascati in Coastal Sands (63466/9118) and The Horizon Collection Elite 1K60 Sheer Ecstasy. Is one carpet better than the other? We are going between these two or is there a better smartstrand carpet we should be using. I will be in our upstairs (bedrooms/hallway) and on our stairs. Thank you

  243. Posted by Shannah on March 4, 2011 at 6:15 am

    Hey CarpetGirl! We took your advice and purchased the SmartStrand Supreme Intellect carpet. We love it BUT our cat had an accident in one of the bedrooms. Any advice on what to use to clean it and the smell?

  244. Posted by CarpetGirl on March 4, 2011 at 3:18 pm

    Wendy –

    Frascati is an 80 ounce texture and Sheer is a 75 ounce texture. I would consider them essentially equal and would recommend either for your home.


  245. Posted by CarpetGirl on March 4, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    Shannah –

    Is kitty in timeout?:) You have to get the smell out or the cat will keep going back to that spot time and time again. Someone else had asked a similar question…of course pro cleaning is the most effective, but I’m sure you don’t want to do that with new carpet and one little spot. I really recommend getting at least a handheld extractor. There is one called the Little Green Machine…Bissell I think. You can get them at walmart for about $100. It’s handy to have for these little issues. Use the extractor to get the “stuff” out. You can do this with just water. (If you choose to use a cleaner – please use as directed – more is not more!) Let it dry. If you still smell it – and you will if you didn’t get it all – super stinky, there are a number of odor control treatments you can try, but I kind of like trying old school first before adding a chemical…baking soda. After the carpet is completely dry, sprinkle some on and work it in. Leave it be for as long as you can….day or two maybe. Then vacuum…then get your extractor back out for extra umph. Again with just water.

    If this doesn’t work…try one of the store bought odor controls. Mohawk has one in the Floorcare essentials line, which is non-toxic.

    Luck – CG

  246. Posted by j.b. on March 5, 2011 at 4:35 pm

    Thanks CG. I’m also considering Prestigious Manner, which I think I read on your blog is 48 oz – do you think that’s sufficient to withstand heavy traffic? I’m most concerned about the stairs. Also, is it thick enough that the backing won’t show when bent around the stairs?
    Thanks again!

  247. Posted by CarpetGirl on March 6, 2011 at 3:32 am

    JB –

    Good choice…CG

  248. Posted by Debra G Foley on March 6, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    Good morning CG. I know that someone mentioned this in an earlier post…but you REALLY DO deserve a bonus from Mohawk for the help you provide on this blog! 🙂 Could you help me with a few questions?

    1) Do you happen to know if Karastan “Bellingrath” = “Essential Living” and if “Nature’s Harmony” = “Artful Inspirations”?

    2)Would you say that any of those listed above would compare to Mohawk “Intelligent Style” and “Brilliant Design”? For instance, if I really like Bellingrath but need to trim my budget, should I go with “IS”?

    2) I know that people have stated that “Intelligent Style” shows footprints. Since Intelligent Style is “similar” to Essential Living (if not similar please feel free to correct me) would it be fair to expect similar footprints? I ask because the local dealer here has “EL” down in about a 10X10 area so it was easy for me to try it out and the footprints we slight and really didn’t bother me.

    Thanks in advance for you help!

  249. Posted by CarpetGirl on March 9, 2011 at 4:02 pm

    Debra –

    1 – yes and yes

    2 – Bellingrath is a 65 ounce texture…Nature’s is a 45 oz texture. IS is 60 oz and BD is 50…both also textures. Without having them in front of me to compare looks, you would be stepping down a little to go to IS and a good bit with BD…I could see IS as a decent option to trim the budget.

    3 – I’d think the two would have similar footprints.

    Luck – CG

  250. Posted by jb on March 9, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    Hi again. It turns out that my husband likes Organic Luxury better than Bonita Springs, but I can’t find a color in Organic Luxury that works for us. Would you please tell me how both Catamaran and Trimaran compare to Organic Luxury in terms of density, weight and wear? Are they any other styles like Organic Luxury you would recommend?
    Thanks so much!

  251. Posted by Debra G Foley on March 10, 2011 at 3:04 am

    Thank you CarpetGirl! Your help is greatly appreciated.

  252. Posted by j.b. on March 11, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    Sorry – one last question…which will show a lesser wear pattern on stairs(as far as matting) – Bonita Springs or Trimaran? Thanks!

  253. Posted by Skippy on March 14, 2011 at 7:26 am

    After some extensive research, we are now fully convinced that Mohawk’s Smartstrand with DuPont’s eco-friendly Sorona Triexta PTT is the best carpet choice due to its fiber strength, appearance retention, stain & soil resistance, durability, cleanability, and softness ratings. We are very thankful that after discovering its profound characteristics that our overly abundant and confusing options were drastically reduced, yet we were still left with plenty of colors to choose from. Mohawk’s warranty gives useful guidelines on selecting carpet including that light-colored carpets will require more maintenance than dark-colored, darker colors of carpet are more effective in high traffic areas, and that multi-colored & patterned carpets are especially effective in hiding soil. Do you agree with this? Also, the Product Gallery on Mohawk’s website provides the characteristics (weight, density, twist, pile height) of each swatch to help narrow down a search even more. On their scale of 1-5, all of their Smartstrand Triexta have a density of 1 or 2 and a twist of 3 or 4, except Sunset Piper with a lower twist of 2. After eliminating all frieze and the remaining styles without the highest available 2 density & 4 twist, we were led to believe that Simonton Beach (65 Face Weight), Atlantic Shores (50 FW), Windwalker (56.8 FW), & Sacred Star (45.1 FW) are the 4 highest quality carpets left to meet our needs. However, since there are claims that lower pile height will reduce footprints and vacuum tracks in some styles, it seems that Atlantic Shores & Sacred Star will have a better chance of passing your proclaimed “handprint indent test” since they are a notch shorter. And the cut-and-loop piles like Design Savvy (31.4 FW), Magic Isle (31.4 FW), & Council Gardens (35.3 FW) with a 2 density, 3 twist, & 2 pile height ratings should also reduce tracks.

    We will never have another indoor pet but our 2 adult sons will surely bless us with grandchildren someday so we’d prefer resilient & worry free flooring. We plan to cover our large open kitchen/dining area plus the small bathroom & short hallway connecting it to the dining room with a high quality wood plank patterned sheet vinyl for a durable low cost rustic look. And we are planning to replace the carpeting in our 47 sq yd living room plus the 59 sq yds in our stairways, basement hall, & 2 basement spare bedrooms. With our home’s split foyer design the living room & stairway are not visually connected so could be complete different carpets but should blend with the wood planks leading to each of them. We are considering the Council Gardens with a pattern match of 36”W x 70.25”L in a dark neutral shade for the high traffic stairways & halls plus the 2 low traffic basement bedrooms. Would the pattern match create too much waste with the 41′ L x 3′ W hall & stair areas, 6.5′ x 3.5′ front door landing, 9′ x 23′ bedroom, & 12′ x 10.5′ bedroom? With the Simonton Beach & Atlantic Shores available in the exact same colors, which would you recommend for our 23′ x 23′ living room? Maybe the higher quality Simonton Beach in the living room & use the Atlantic Shores for the rest? Would the Windwalker Velvet Chair or Sacred Star New Haven Rose be too bold with our Sherwin William’s Sands of Time walls & Roycraft Copper Red accent wall in the large living room? Should we push our retailer toward the Mohawk SmartCushion padding after he has assured us carpet warranties are basically worthless promises? Your expert opinions are be highly appreciated!

  254. Posted by CarpetGirl on March 14, 2011 at 1:38 pm

    JB –

    Catamaran is a 50 ounce texture…Trimaran is a 65 oz texture. Since Organic is 60…Trimaran would be closest and a little bit of a weight upgrade. I don’t have twist or density on my sheets, but I would think twist would about the same on all 3 of these. A few others at or close to 60 are Fountainebleau and Roaming Spirit.

    Luck – CG

  255. Posted by CarpetGirl on March 14, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    JB –

    Friezes tend to do a little better with wear, but stairs are tough for any carpet – so I am not sure the difference would be visible.


  256. Posted by CarpetGirl on March 14, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    Skippy –

    Where to start…

    I don’t know that I do agree that darker colors show less wear. I think the opposite is true. In testing carpet, we always used a medium blue shade to see wear and a light beige for stain/soil. There is less light reflection on lighter shades than darker. It is that light reflection that allows you to see matting/crushing. So I say go darker to hide stains and soil and lighter to hide wear.

    I’m not a fan of the product gallery ratings frankly. I don’t believe you can look at one rating over the other…it has to be a combination of everything PLUS, higher twist offsets the concerns on density in terms of wear. That being said…all 4 you have listed are great styles. I see no issues with any of these.

    I suggest you do the hand test…your logic is reasonable, but why eliminate something that might work off a hunch when you can literally “get your hands on samples”. I will tell you that the patterned goods, like Council, will show tracks. Just swipe your hand across and you’ll see what I mean. They even look different from different directions. Place the sample on the floor and walk around it. I LOVE that effect, but it drives some people nuts. I have magic isle down and I love it, but because the yarn used is not textured – it is more of a saxony system, I do see footprints and track marks. They don’t bother me but they may bother you.

    I am not an expert in pattern repeat/match. Better question for a seasoned installer. It is a large pattern repeat but a gorgeous pattern.

    Simonton is heavier than Atlantic…65 vs 50…otherwise essentially so I’d go heavier if you can int he room you use most.

    I have no clue on colors…no samples here to look at.

    I will disagree that the warranties are worthless, but I do recommend a pad with a moisture barrier. Whether it is SmartCushion or not is up to you.

    Hopefully I saw all the question marks and covered them.

    Luck – CG

  257. Posted by Skippy on March 14, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    CG – Thanks for addressing all our questions so promptly! Your insights were very helpful at steering us in the right direction. We will be swapping the nylon samples we brought home for some of the SmartStrand samples that can pass the hand-print & hand-swipe tests since we’d much prefer a trackless look. So, it seems that medium shades could possibly work best to help hide both wear & soil/lint between vacuuming in lower lit areas like our stairways & basement? And a lighter shade would clearly work best in our bright sunlit living room to help hide matting/crushing since stains should rarely become an issue with the Smartstrand Triextra. The daring deep reds we mentioned before are definitely out now. My husband despises the wormy frieze style so the multi-colored option seems unattainable from the samples we’ve viewed on Mohawk’s website. Have we missed something? This must have something to do with SmartStrand’s construction or could it simply be a lack in demand? Our 1985 multi-brownish colored dining room carpet did a wonderful job of hiding absolutely everything for over 26 years, including cherry Kool-Aid! It has never left a single footprint or vacuum mark but it is literally busting at the seams so must finally be replaced. I understand they don’t make carpets to last like they used to and maybe that is partially why fewer multi-colored options (that hide everything) are offered. We mentioned Mohawk’s warranty because it provides an enhanced Abrasive Wear when purchasing the SmartCushion pad at the same time as their SmartStand carpet which adds 10 years to the current warranty and actually includes stairs. Guess we should check with our carpet retailer/installer and then consider the price difference before deciding whether to insist on the SmartCushion. Hopefully his expressed negative attitude about carpet warranties will not influence the price quote and he won’t think we are foolish for pursuing a warranty issue any further. He is a local with an outstanding reputation for quality installation so we should respect his opinions but don’t necessarily have to agree with all of them. We will definitely insist on a moisture barrier regardless of his opinion on that issue. Your expertise is making some tough decisions a bit easier. Thanks again!

  258. Posted by Chris on March 15, 2011 at 5:09 am

    Hi, not sure if you’ll be able to help with my specific question but thought I’d try. We are purchasing Smartstrand Heavens View in Canyon Clay color from Thorntons in Sioux Falls SD. It’s a little darker than we would normally go with however we are also putting in Mohawk Hilea Strand Bamboo and it looks awesome next to it.

    My question is in regard to the pad – I’ve gotten so many conflicting suggestions and dont know where to turn. Thorntons normally sells Future Foam – looking at Future Guard cushion – it’s 1/2 inch, 8 lb, however I’ve also looked into Mohawk Smart Cushion – 15/32 inch, 8 lb. Thorntons does not stock the SmartCushion and I’m having a very hard time finding out it’s properties, specs, what it’s make of etc and have not been able to stand on it. Also dont know if there are different types of SmartCushion – the website is vague at best. The seller is telling me that the Future Guard will be just as good or better.

    Do you have any suggestions regarding which to go with? Price will be the same – we are looking for the softest we can find while maintaining good performance. Thanks!!

  259. Posted by Sharon on March 15, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    Love your blog! You answer a lot of questions that have confused me. I am looking at both Posh Origins (style 1152) and Villa Way (style 3413). The Posh Origins is wonderfully soft while the Villa Way is less soft but denser. The store with the Villa Way says it is just as soft but feels less so because of the density. Is the Villa Way actually the older fiber which is less soft? Will the Posh Origins hold up well (without matting or corn-rowing)even though the fiber spacing seems fairly open?

  260. Posted by CarpetGirl on March 16, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    Skippy –

    I tend to agree with him on abrasive wear warranties…texture retention is the important one. Abrasive wear is actually a fiber loss warranty and unless we forgot the latex, that should never happen.

    Medium shade won’t hide lint very well – lighter would – but you are right on the rest.

    As for colorations, you haven’t missed anything. Fleck is popular in frieze only…not a textured carpet option. The “multi-colors” of the 80’s have been gone for a long time. Change in taste I guess.


  261. Posted by CarpetGirl on March 16, 2011 at 2:46 pm

    Chris –

    Again I do recommend a moisture barrier…not clear in your note if the one in stock has that or not.

    The 8lb, 1/2″ is a good option given that you want soft. I prefer a little firmer in a 10 lb but that is my preference, not an indication that 10 is better. I don’t know anything about the Future Foam product, but if Thornton has the Foam one in stock…go with it. The key to pad is to get the right thickness and the right density…you’ve done that. Now you’re just over thinking it a little. The SmartCushion is a rebond pad with a moisture barrier…comes in all thicknesses and densities.


  262. Posted by CarpetGirl on March 16, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    Sharon –

    You’ve really been paying attention! Villa was one of the first style introduced in SmartStrand…very traditional dense texture…it was also made using a slightly higher denier fiber than the one that Posh has. (Denier refers to the size of the fiber…lower is smaller…higher is bigger. Think of it like coarse hair versus fine hair) Oddly, even at that higher denier the SmartStrand was significantly softer than our nylons that we were thrilled and went ahead with it. So the slightly harsher hand is a function of that higher denier and the overall density of the product. In 2005 responding to the market looking for super soft carpeting, we started to develop even softer yarns by lowering the denier but we tested everything to make sure that it did not negatively impact the performance of the carpet. The wave of product after Villa have the lower denier fiber…and they do feel a good bit softer, but as you noted they are also less dense. That is a style trend more than anything. The denier change is rather minor and has no impact on the performance of the product, just the feel.

    The construction differences…dense versus less dense…can result in footprints or tracks. If those bother you…consider sticking with Villa.

    Luck – CG

  263. Posted by Sharon on March 16, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    Thank you!!

  264. Posted by 9Pickles on March 17, 2011 at 4:38 am

    Hi! Just read through all of your comments twice in the past week. I’m a big researcher! Here’s my dilemma. We are military with 7 children. We are getting ready to rent out our house. In 5 years we will either resell it or come back to live here. Either way, I am hoping whatever carpet we choose will still be in good enough shape to stay. I think we are renting to people who will try to take care of it, I am more concerned about wear. I checked out one of your favorite stores (Kelly’s), but though very nice and helpful found them to be a little pricey. So now I’m looking into Nebraska Furniture Mart. We have a really big house. 240 yards in main floors and 120 yards in finished basement, so cost is important in addition to everything else. I have found five different styles that I like and all look similar, but I’m sure have different “stats.” One is guided vision, which I already read your numbers on. The others are Danforth, Caicos Islands, Abaco & Earth’s Hope. I am having trouble finding info. on these. Can you give me the numbers and tell me which one you would suggest for my situation? I really want something that will hold up. (note: they are all similarly priced except Abaco, which is $5-$7 dollars cheaper a yard than the others.) Thanks so much!

  265. Posted by CarpetGirl on March 22, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    Pickles –

    Sorry for the delay…part of the key is that the renters have the carpet professionally cleaned every year to 18 months. That will keep it look better for wear and of course keep it clean. If they don’t do that, you will likely have issues regardless of what carpet you choose. Try to get that in the contract and ask for reciepts! You might even as your retailer if they do a service that you can prebuy…some do but it is not the norm.

    As for styles…all are textures, so twists should be close if not identical. Guided is the heaviest at 58 oz…Danforth and Caicos are 50 (they are not the same style)…Earth’s Hope is 46 and Abaco is 40 (which explains the cost differential). For your situation, I don’t think Guided is necessary but I like a little more weight than the 40, so I’d choose between Danforth, Caicos and Earth’s Hope…leaning toward Earth’s Hope.

    BTW – I am a fan of Kelly’s and remember that everything is negotiable. You could always go back to them with the other pricing…if you haven’t already tried it – ask for any military discounts too. Can’t hurt!

    Luck – CG

  266. Posted by JR on March 26, 2011 at 10:01 am

    I first came across your posts at gardenweb and really appreciate your advice. As already discussed, different retailers carry the same carpet under different names. I am trying to research the SmartStrand I am interested in and can find nothing on the web (the salesman wasn’t really helpful either). I am pretty sure the retailer is independent and not a chain, so it seems they would not have styles names unique to them. There are two I am interested in. The first style is Plush Life and the other is SP 178. Do you have any information on those styles and are they the same as another style that is easier to research? I am mainly trying to find face weight. Thanks for any information you can provide.

  267. Posted by CarpetGirl on March 30, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    JR –

    Have no idea what Plush life is…it’s not on my style list, so I can’t even tell you a similar style. You are probably at a buying group account that does indeed have different names. The SP product is a special buy filament Polyester at 38 ounces.

    Luck – CG

  268. Posted by Debra on March 31, 2011 at 1:25 am

    Hi Carpet Girl,

    I just wanted to let you know that I finally decided on “Bellingrath”; color bamboo and it was installed yesterday. The carpet is beautiful and soft and I am happy with my choice! It does show some footprints but they mostly blend in to the the shading that is created by the textured surface and it doesn’t bother me at all. I think I am only 75% happy with the color I choose but only because it looks icky (technical term:)) with the paint in two rooms. But, a few gallons of paint will fix that. 🙂

    Thanks again for all of your help and information;it was the only way that I was able to really understand what I was buying!!


  269. Posted by Sandi on April 1, 2011 at 12:40 am

    I hope we are finally at the end of this all-to-long process. Tuesday the carpet people were here and completely replaced the flawed carpet. According to the store people it was all at Karastan’s expense. I was real pleased that Karastan stood behind their warranty to this extent. So… after moving all of the furniture back into the three bedroms today (for the third time) we are at last done.
    I did want to give kudos to Karastan and our local dealer Abbey Carpets for their efforts to really stand behind their product.


  270. Posted by CarpetGirl on April 1, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    Sandi –

    Glad you’re pleased!


  271. Posted by E C on April 9, 2011 at 3:10 am

    I am trying to decide between the Intelligent Style and the Sheer Ecstasy Mohawk SmartStrand carpets. The Sheer Ecstasy feels a lot denser than the Intelligent, but I am worried about footprints. I also wonder how much better the Sheer Ecstasy will be considering it is a few hundred dollars more. Any insights?

  272. Posted by E C on April 9, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    How did SheerEcstasy work out for you?
    I am going through the same agony you did!!!

  273. Posted by Mary on April 10, 2011 at 3:24 pm

    Dear CarpetGirl, I am looking at Mohawk Sundancer or True Retreat (same thing, different name) 37 oz Smartstrand carpet for a higher end rental property. I need 648 sq.ft, 72 sq. yards. The prices I have rec’d with 8 lb. pad and installed are $2000 and another one for $2700. I am also looking at a Mohawk Horizon line SP167 which is supposed to be the same product with a lesser warranty that I can get for $1500. What do you think I should do?

  274. Posted by CarpetGirl on April 13, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    EC –

    IS is a 60 ounce texture and SE is a 75 ounce texture…so there is about a pound more fiber in each yard of ES – which you noticed. Will that signifcantly change performance…not when the other is 60 ounces. If it were 40 to start – then yes. A number of people on here have mentioned footprints on these product…I would not expect one to be discernably better than the other for footprints. These are basically the same construction setup with one having slightly longer pile height and slightly closer stitches per inch to make it heavier. Sheer is the clear luxurious choice, but if footprints bother you, you might need to look at other types of constructions.

    Luck – CG

  275. Posted by CarpetGirl on April 13, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    Mary –

    Considering this is a rental property, the difference in warranty is not worth the extra price. I’d go with the SP…good call on the 8lb pad!


  276. Posted by Amy on April 20, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    Dear Carpetgirl

    I have read many of your responses on Gardenweb when I was first shopping for carpet. We purchased Silk II from HD in May 2009 for our old house. The install and selection was great. We have been overjoyed with the purchase ever since. I had never given carpet much thought until I shopped around in 2009. We had a new baby and wanted something soft….we ran across Silk and you gave it good reviews so we went for it. We LOVE it. 2 years later I still LOVE it. It still looks great, wears great, and feels great.

    So naturally when we purchased our new home in the summer of 2011, I went looking for Silk again to find it wasn’t at HD anymore. I had so many other projects going on, I just quickly picked something else. Well before it was installed, Mohawk brought Silk back into HD and I changed my order to exactly what I had in my old house. I was SO excited! It was within our tight budget, and I was relieved it was available.

    So, after many (many, many, many) screw-ups from our local HD (including bring out the wrong carpets not once, but 4 times, measuring wrong, seaming the Looptex downstairs incorrectly)….we had our Silk installed. But, after living with it for a few weeks, it just is different. The sheen is different, the shade is different, and even the feel isn’t as soft. We still own both houses, so it’s easy for us to compare. What was installed actually doesn’t even match the samples from the store. So, HD sent our carpet to Mohawk to be tested, and they came back saying something was wrong with that dye lot, and they would replace it for us. So, they ordered it, came to install it, and it still looked wrong….it looked like the first “wrong” carpet they installed. I did not have them install it, but sent it back to be tested again. Mohawk came back today saying there is nothing wrong with it and there is nothing they will do.

    I’m not sure what to do right now. The installers, and everyone that sees the two carpets side by side agree that it’s different. I have the small carpet sample from our purchase in August 2010, and that matches the large remnant I had left from our first install in 2009. So I’m comparing two large samples together, not the small ones. The sheen is less, the color is off….and frankly it just looks like an inferior carpet. I understand that the dye lot shade may be off a little, but this is quite a bit. We have been dealing with these carpet issues for 9 months now. I’m so disappointed because I love my Mohawk Silk in my old house so much.

    Any thoughts or advice? Any number I can call at Mohawk possibly?

  277. Posted by Joyce on April 21, 2011 at 3:50 am

    We are looking at putting carpeting in a family room and on steps. We are looking at Lees carpet and the style is Good Vibrations featuring Evertex with a 25 year wear and texture retention, and a life stain warranty. I am wondering if you have any reviews regarding the quality and wearability of this carpet? Thanks – Joyce

  278. Posted by CarpetGirl on April 26, 2011 at 1:48 am

    Amy –

    Hmmm…There are changes in manufacturing that can slightly alter the look of a carpet – hence the disclaimer on samples. Also samples that stay in stores can change color as well, so the disclaimer is really important.

    I’d make Home Depot deal with MHK to make you happy….it is a stress you don’t need to deal with. If their installers agree with you, HD has enough pull to make something happen.

    I THINK the number for Mohawk is 800-2Mohawk…but it could be 877…check

    Sorry this has happened…I know how frustrating it is.


  279. Posted by CarpetGirl on April 26, 2011 at 1:50 am

    Joyce –

    I have no info on the Lees styles unfortunately. Given it’s warranty package, Carpet One must consider it one of the top tier products though, so I think you’ve probably picked a winner.


  280. Posted by Mary on April 27, 2011 at 5:13 pm

    We are having carpet put in our newly finished basement. Originally, we wanted Mohawk Smartstrand, but contractor denied it due to price. We have found Mohawk Everstrand Fresh Outlook at Lowe’s that is within the contractors budget. I cannot find many reviews on Everstrand so I am wondering what your thoughts are? We do have children but no pets. Obviously, we are looking for something durable for the basement since it will be used as a playroom for the kids.

  281. Posted by CarpetGirl on May 2, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    Mary –

    EverStrand is our recycled PET product line. Affordable and stain resistant. It does, however, lack some of the resiliency of SmartStrand or even nylon. If you are looking for durable versus stain resistant – find a nylon if you can. There are some very light weight SmartStrands, but I am not a fan of going really light weight.

    Luck – CG

  282. Posted by Amy on May 9, 2011 at 4:14 pm

    Hello! It’s me again!

    So Home Depot doesn’t want to address any issues with Mohawk it seems, but after several phone calls with their corporate office in GA, they are willing to replace our carpet with an equal price carpet under their 90 day satisfaction warranty.

    We really don’t want to spend much more money on this carpet fiasco. I found out today that we actually had Silk III (which is 58.8oz, 5.5 twist and around 2930 density) in our old house…and that is also what they said they put in our new house…but it looks and feels nothing like the Silk III in our old house. The carpets that are in the similar price range for them (Smartstrand) are the Command Performance II (5.5 twist and 49 oz) and Command III (5.5 twist and 58.8oz). They also have a few others, but I left my sheet of info at that house! Some of the others (Amon Pass being one) have a 6.5 twist, with the same weight (49 oz or 58 oz). My question is….the Command Performance III would be another $800 out of our pockets. Is it worth it for the additional weight? Or should be be looking more at the 6.5 twist for the Amon Pass, and not worry about the higher weight? Home Depot does not have the density listed, nor do they have it in their notebooks. I called Mohawk, and they said I needed to have the store call for the specs, and Mohawk would fax over a sheet to them. Not exactly the hoop I was hoping to jump through right now.

    We have 3 kids (13, 10, and 2) and one small dog. This is our upstairs carpets, where no shoes typically roam, no food or drinks are allowed, and the dog is forbidden. This does include the stairs too though. Will we notice the difference in the 10oz of weight? Is it worth it to make HD get the specs so we know the density? The only reason I knew the density of Silk III is someone on your blog posted it prior.

    Thanks so much. Your blog and information has been most helpful these past few months of our carpet issues!

  283. Posted by CarpetGirl on May 12, 2011 at 3:42 pm

    Amy –

    CPII will look most like Silk III since it is a texture. Amon is a frieze and will not have the same aesthetic. You seem to be a texture girl so I am not sure if you’ll like the look of Amon. If you do…I’d go with that one. The extra twist makes for better wear.

    For the texture, honestly I don’t think the 10 ounces will make a huge difference…different story if we were talking about 30 vs 40, but 49 is pretty heavy. You will notice it though since you are hyper sensative to the differences…my fear is you’ll be disappointed. Another reason to go with Amon, because it is knew and you can’t truly compare it to the old style.

    Not sure if I helped at all here…kinda your call.


  284. Posted by Tanya on May 12, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    We are looking at either the Mohawk 1K60 Sheer Ecstasy or the 1N91 Supreme Intellect as they both come in the color we like. Specs look identical so I’m wondering – what is the difference between the two carpets? The pricing is similar but not exact… This will be in our upstairs bedrooms hallway, stairs and living room. Family of four plus a small dog.

  285. Posted by Amy on May 12, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    Thank you so much for your input, I truly appreciate it! My husband likes the frieze, and I know you are a frieze girl! Maybe I’ll just take the leap and go with that!

    Thanks again!

  286. Posted by Chris Murray on May 19, 2011 at 4:28 pm

    We are replacing all the cartet (approx 1800 sqft) throughtout the house. I am absolutely sold on SmartStrand and have samples of Mohawk-Horizon Fort Zach in Paradise Tan and Seamist but not fond of the colors. My husband doesn’t care for the ‘longer shag’ look of the Seamist. I also have a texture style – Elizabethton. However,,,,,ooking online I see the styles Windwalker and Atlantic Shores which appear to have a heavier Density? We currently have 13 year old plush carpet and I cannot wait to rid our home of this flattened out ickyness! lol There are only two of in the home without pets but alot of foot traffic due to a very large family including 5 well behaved grandchildren. What are your suggestions for the Softest Style underfoot as well as just holding up to wear overall? I’m working with ProSource in OKC and in somewhat of a timecrunch. Thank you so much for any quick reply !!!

  287. Posted by CarpetGirl on May 19, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    Tanya –

    Same carpet…choose the cheaper one.


  288. Posted by CarpetGirl on May 19, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    Chris –

    Funny how husbands don’t like shags…mine either! Not sure what Elizabethton is…windwalker is a 58 oz texture…Atlantic a 50 oz texture. FZ is a 48 ounce frieze. Textures naturally are more dense than friezes…friezes have more twist than textures which essentially offsets the lower density. I think you’ll find the textures to be softer because of the lower twist as well. Honestly – all 3 that I have listed here are great styles for durability…I think it comes down to the look you prefer at this point. I prefer the look of friezes more than the traditional texture look.


  289. Posted by Chris Murray on May 19, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Thank you CG! I also like the look of frieze. I stopped and picked up a few more samples today. What are your thoughts on Sunset Pier, South Padre Island, Southern Point and Fashion Knowledge? Are they all a Frieze? Am a little concerned about too many “specks” throughout the entire house but feel a little is ok and seems to be the in thing right now……. vs. a solid? Can’t make up my mind on that one. Ughhh! lol Very intimidating decision so Thank you Sooo much for your input!!

  290. Posted by Chris Murray on May 19, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    Curious as well if any of these carpets I’ve mentioned in both previous posts are any newer to the market with any additional features/warranties? I was also going to use the 1/2″ SmartCushion padding. I believe it’s 8 oz……is 1/2 thick enough? I really want the best padding with the best and softest feel underfoot.
    Thanks in advance……..again! 🙂

  291. Posted by CarpetGirl on May 19, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    Chris –

    Fashion and Southernmost are friezes. 50 and 48 oz respectively. Sunset is what we call a cable – fatter yarns and South Padre is a texture. The “youngest” is Fashion. I don’t know that it has different features or warranties but the color lines might be a bit newer.

    Pad is 8 pound…which is a density rating not a weight persay. Half inch is good. If you’ve read thru the posts you know I am a moisture barrier girl so Smart Cushion is a great choice.

    As for fleck…it is less noticable in larger spaces than on the samples, but I agree…I too prefer less fleck.


  292. Posted by confusedincarpets on May 20, 2011 at 1:57 am

    Hi, I am trying to purchase a carpet for a 25×25 room. It is our main family room, with only one entry way. We do everything in here, play games, watch TV, read…. I have 2 kids (7 & 8), 2 dogs (3lbs and 60+lbs). I’ve been told of the SmartStrand – Mohawk Brand in Intelligent, New Sensation & Dramatic approach. I have the spec sheets, called Mohawk and from what I have I’m not sure on any of these my thought is the New Sensation but…….I would like your opinion…..What should be the factors I focus on?

    If price was not a factor what carpet (brand/type) would you go to for a single color/pile (not frieze) that will be durable for high traffic, comfortable to lay on, easy to maintain (minimal footprints/fraying/staining issues)? As well as a pad? I am looking to invest in a carpet. Also this room sits above our 2 car garage which in the past made it to coldest room in the winter so I’m assuming the denser carpet would be a better option. Please help and thank you!

    (PS the salesman stated that the Intelligent is softer because it goes through an additional heat cycle which Mohawk’s technical staff/engineer was not aware of. My fear was like a strand of spaghetti the more times it heats up the weaker the fibers become….not sure if you have any input on this)

  293. Posted by Chris Murray on June 1, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    Good Afternoon CG !
    Had to step away from the carpet samples for a few days to finish a kitchen backsplash. Alot going on 🙂
    But, I did get another sample board from a different store and noticed the color names were the exact same as the one’s for the style FORT ZACH. Here is my question: Fort Zach lists the “fiber” as “100% Smartstrand* BCF Triexta made with Dupont Sorona* Renewably Sourced Polymer”. It has 15 year warranties, 20 year for manuf. defects, an OPTIBACK warranty and is FHA certified. The second sample board appears to be the exact same carpet and is Style 9044 PINELLAS PARK. It lists “pile” (not fiber)as “100% Mohawk Smartstrand 3GT Polyester made with Dupont Sorona Polymer”. It has 10 year warranties for texture retention, buckling and delamination with a 20 year wear and lifetime manuf. defect. I don’t see anything referring to optiback or FHA certified. Both of course have lifetime stain warranties. I keep going back to both these sample boards over any others for some reason. I like the look, feel and the texture even though they aren’t the thickest or heaviest. We live a very casual, open door lifestyle so I hope this is a good choice. PEBBLE BAY (511) seems to be a good medium toned neutral….not too dark or light/not too yellow or green? I haven’t purchased new carpet in many years and find this to be strangly difficult. So many choices my mind is frazzled! My husband would love to hear me say that out loud…lol I need to return the samples and make a decision So……your thoughts on this color and mostly, what is the difference in the two if any and if so….which is the better choice. Thank you so much in advance !!!

  294. Posted by Chris Murray on June 1, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    In addition and I don’t know if this will matter but, the Fort Zach style is from Pro Source in OKC and is $26.99sy and the Pinellas Park is from a small independant store – excellant reputation – called Country Carpet in Nicoma Park, Oklahoma for $22.99sy. The “sticker price was $30sy but I was referred by a friend who called ahead so he lowered the price to $22.99. Hmmmm I am mostly concerned of course with the better fiber…..the better carpet!

  295. Posted by Chris Murray on June 2, 2011 at 12:45 am

    I can ‘google’ Fort Zach all day long but nothing for Pinellas Park…..why is that?

  296. Posted by jim Kinney on June 9, 2011 at 4:01 pm

    Hi, got lots if info from your site and was looking at Karastans embracable and liked that style but thought I read it leaves lots of footprints, I didn’t seem to see it on the sample, was quite pricey, wanted to know what Mohawk product would be close to same style? Didn’t want a lot of footprints all the time but it is called a frieze not a cut pile and didn’t look like footprints on the sample to me thanks JIM

  297. Posted by CarpetGirl on June 13, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    Confused –

    Sorry for the delay in responding. I support your choice of New Sensation – mostly for the footprints. It is the best we have for that issue in SmartStrand, in my opinion. Not quite as soft, but still soft enough.

    PS – the salesperson was talking nonsense. The fibers on intelligent are a little smaller than New…like slightly finer hair feels softer. Heatsetting is to keep the twist together and each sees the exact same treatment there.


  298. Posted by CarpetGirl on June 13, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    Chris –

    Trying to follow, sorry for the delay…it’s easier to find Fort Zach online because more stores carry it. It is a brand open to any type of dealer. Pinellas is for ColorCenter dealers only. Same fiber…same carpet…same backing. Different warranties because of the different type of dealer.

    On color – I don’t have boards here to look at so I can’t really help you there. Like you, I prefer a mid color neutral. Unfortunately that is about all the help I’ll be there.


  299. Posted by CarpetGirl on June 13, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    Jim –

    That style is only available in Karastan…nothing in MHK at 80 ounces!


  300. Posted by Chris Murray on June 14, 2011 at 1:03 am

    Thanks for all your help GC !!! Have a great summer 🙂

  301. Posted by April Cooke on June 17, 2011 at 2:45 pm

    Oh, Great Carpet Girl! Please bestow me with your wisdom! We are replacing 25 year old Berber in our living room (at the main entrance of the house) and hallways with Frieze. I loved the Berber as it has really held up (that’s a long time for carpet!), but it’s time to put it out of it’s misery. I have two children (18 & 12), a husband with muddy/dirty shoes (he’s a coach) and two dogs, one of which is in and out. I am leaning towards the Enlightened Decor and the carpet guy says he uses an 8# pad. Carpet will be installed over wood subfloor, but the dogs are well potty trained, so is the moisture barrier necessary? After reading your entire blog (which has been so much more than helpful!), I know it is 45 oz, so will it hold up as well as a say, a 53 oz? Or does that just have to do with comfort underfoot? Your blog is a GOLDMINE! Thank you so much!

  302. We have SmartStrand Intelligent Choice in two bedrooms that were part of a renovation 2 years ago. We love it. It still looks brand new despite kid traffic. We have an additional 1200 sq ft of 10 year old carpet yet to replace and due to price, we’re considering Everstrand. How does it wear compared to the SmartStrand? At half the price, will it hold up? We can’t afford to do the whole house in the SmartStrand at this time. The Everstrand feels soft, but not as soft. I get that the stain resistance will not be as good – but is it terrible?

    Thanks for your service. I found your site to be very helpful 2 years ago as we were researching the SmartStrand. (Did I mention how much I love walking barefoot on that carpet?)

  303. Posted by CarpetGirl on June 30, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    April –

    Way too much pressure with the wisdom stuff! 🙂

    Accidents happen and pups get older, so I am a fan of the moisture barrier – but it’s your call. Since it is a frieze, I think you’ll be fine with the 45 oz…not that big of a leap to the 53 performance wise but you would feel the ounce difference underfoot.

    Luck – CG

  304. Posted by Susan on July 6, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    Hi Carpetgirl, I’m going to lay smartstrand on concrete. Do i need the water barrier pad ?

  305. Posted by Rustypipes on July 11, 2011 at 4:27 pm

    Hi, Carpetgirl,

    Am so thankful for your blog, it has helped educate me about carpet! I live in the Houston area am working with a local contractor for carpet and tile. He has recommended Mohawk SmartStrand Intelligent Style or Supreme Intellect. My goal is to buy a high-performance carpet that will still look ok for 10 years and beyond. I know it won’t look new, but am looking for something that won’t need to be replaced before then.

    It’s hard to find the exact details for these two Mohawk names, but I have been told the Intelligent Style is 65oz face weight while the Supreme is 75 oz. I have a sample of the Intelligent Style but not the Supreme. Do you know if there is a different in pile height between these two styles? I like the pile height of the Intelligent Style. What is your opinion of this vs. the Supreme Intellect style?

  306. Posted by Kel on July 18, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    Costco showed me a smartstrand carpet called Washington Heights. Does this compare to Home Depots Command Performance 3? Not sure if they are the same weight/quality. Price is comparable.

  307. Posted by CarpetGirl on July 27, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    Kristena –

    The stain resistance will be good…not quite as good as SmartStrand and no bleach resistance. The issue will be wear. EverStrand is not nearly as resilient as SmartStrand. I would rather see you go with a less expensive Smartstrand actually, unless you are comfortable knowing that with traffic, the ES will not look as good over the long term as SmartStrand.


  308. Posted by CarpetGirl on July 27, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    Susan –

    If you want to be able to completely remove stains, yes. Ruining the subfloor, obviously won’t be an issue, but odors that could remain from stains still can be.


  309. Posted by CarpetGirl on July 27, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    Pipes –

    Supreme is likely a little higher in pile. These are a better/best combo…meaning the same yarn in basically the same stules only one is a little heavier. That weight adjustment is made with the stitches per inch and the pile, with both increasing a bit. Supreme is a hunk of carpet, more than most people need to hit your goal of “high-performance”. It is more for luxury at 75 ounces. I love them both but Intelligent seems to be a fan favorite. Will warn you of the comments of footprints though. Many people have commented here on the footprints left on both of these so if you aren’t a fan, you might want to look for other options.


  310. Posted by CarpetGirl on July 27, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    Kel –

    I do not have any info on the HD or Costco styles so I can’t tell you anything at all…other than both are good sellers. Sorry!


  311. Posted by Kimba on July 30, 2011 at 6:14 am

    CG –
    Is Karastan Trastevere (Lost Lagoon color) the same as Karastan Embraceable (Blue Edge color), from a twist/weight/density standpoint? I like the Trastevere Lost Lagoon but it’s really expensive ($65 sq/yd installed). If Karastan Embraceable Blue Edge isn’t the same, what is?

    Also – is it true that Karastan just discontinued their Karastep 15/32″ Gold pad and replaced it with Reserve 2.0, 9 pounds? The new one has a “for the cure” logo and costs less; I am wondering if the salesperson is just trying to get the cost down and using a lesser pad. I want to use a good pad!

  312. Posted by Bustersmom on August 9, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    Hello CG,
    I wanted to ask about Twist. You mentioned that “The extra twist makes for better wear.” Is this in terms of texture retention or abrasion? I have been planning to get Intelligent Style but its 5.5 twist now seems inadequate. You seem to feel that a 6.5 is important. But how much difference is there between these 2? And is there a Smartstrand with Sorona product that has a 6.5 Twist?

    Also: I was talking with a salesperson who said that you could put the Smartcushion down either way — moisture barrier up or down…?

  313. Posted by Liz on August 13, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    Hi Carpet Girl!

    Thank you for your blog, it has given me a lot to think about. I had a salesman to my house this week and gave me a quote on 53 yds of Smartstrand Frieze at 1828.00 installed with a 8 lb 1/2″ pad. It seems like a great price, but it is only 32oz. From reading your blog I would assume this is not good enough for a family room. I have a baby and 3 year old, no pets and want something very very soft, stain resistant and durable. The salesman told me that the color I picked is a multicolored (two colors on on strand) and that he doesn’t have that particular color in 50oz. Is this right? I am going to a few more places but want to get your opinion – what carpet would you get if you wanted very soft, stain resistant, durable for a family room and what oz would be your minimum and what is your max. Also what price for 53 yds of what you will suggest would be a decent price with a 8lb 1/2″ moisture resistant pad? Thanks in advance. Buying carpet is hard.

  314. Posted by CarpetGirl on August 15, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    Kimba –

    The two styles are both 80 ounce textures but that is all I can see. Good chance they are the same. Karastan did stop making the gold pad. The reserve is still a great option and there is a Komen donation that goes with it.


  315. Posted by CarpetGirl on August 15, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    Liz –

    I’d go heavier and stick with SmartStrand. Minimum of 40 and fleck is a great idea with kids. This might simply be a case of that salesperson or store not carrying a fleck in a heavier weight because we certainly make them in SmartStrand – lightest is a 32 and heaviest is 65. Can’t comment on pricing – it varies too much by region for me to know. Be sure to ask if furniture moving and hauling away the old carpet is included. I think you need to shop around.


  316. Posted by on August 18, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    I’m hoping someone can help me–

    I looked at Home Depot’s Smartstrand carpet style Port Lacroix (color: Toasted Taupe). Can someone tell me the alternate name for this carpet style and color? I’m trying to get a price that is not as expensive as HD. Thanks!

  317. Posted by carpetly challenged on August 19, 2011 at 12:25 am

    I am looking at a Mohawk Triextra SmartStrand Sorona looped carpet (two sizes of loops) for a master suite. I believe it is called Rosepoint and has a tuft twist of 3.82, twist 2.75×2.75 (so probably 38oz?). After reading many of your posts (here and on another forum), I still have a few questions.

    1. We have two dogs who like to race around in this area b/c it is the only carpeted one. One had large nails, both have scratched up our leather footboard when rocketing off of it. I wouldn’t buy it again. Will I feel the same way about this carpet b/c they may snag it? Or even hurt themselves on it?

    2. Is the low twist an issue? The price point seems to be mid-range ($41sq yd with tax and removal, $29.33sq yd carpet/pad only), but I don’t want to be replacing it for a good while. Except for serving as a weekly race track, it gets low-but-daily wear. Does the price seem right for such a low weight?

    3. The salesperson recommended moving the seam from a high-traffic, low-visibility area to a high-visibility, slightly-lower traffic area. This will cause by my estimation a slightly higher square footage needed. The rational was so that the seam would get less traffic. Does this make sense?

    I so appreciate any feedback you can provide! Thank you.

  318. Posted by Steve on August 21, 2011 at 2:02 am

    Hi Carpet girl,

    Been reading your blog for a while now. Bought a house and am re-carpeting pretty much the entire house. Decided we wanted to go with Mohawk smart strand. Initially was shopping at Carpet and Tile mart and found the “mode elegance” and “regency” styles to be our favorite. Gave us a price of approx. $6800 installed including an 8lb pad.

    Price sounded reasonable, but being the prudent consumer I am I wanted to shop around. Check with a local carpet place and they said they those styles (mode elegance and regency) were private labels made only for Carpet Mart; however in the local store, I found the Mohawk Smartstrand carpet with the same color selection/numbering system labeled as “sheer ecstasy.” Is this the same or comparable? Their price was much higher at $6.00 per square foot installed.

    Thanks in advance for the help! 😛

  319. Posted by Steve on August 21, 2011 at 2:09 am

    Also, can you post the specifics as far as the weight of the carpet (the ounce numbers I see you refer to often), how high up the quality chain those styles I mentioned are, and what a good price would be for the Pennsylvania/Delaware area?

    Thanks again!

  320. Posted by Beth O. on August 23, 2011 at 7:07 am

    CG –
    Thanks for all your help!! I bought SmartStrand/Karastan/Embraceable, in large part because of what I learned from you!

    Two questions: one rather urgent about installation, and one about the vacuum.

    First: the installer came to install the carpet last Saturday but didn’t finish the job. He did the large rooms but not the small room, hallways or stairs. He left the carpet (and padding) rolled-up, stacked, in my garage and he is scheduled to come back this Saturday. Is this going to be a long-term problem for the carpet to be sitting in my garage for a week? Does it need to be stretched or something before being installed? I’ve read about wrinkles and don’t want that!! If it needs to be stretched, can that be done on-site or does it require a machine?
    I don’t want to be difficult but do want to stand up for myself and my great new carpet; and though I’ve left several messages, the salesman isn’t calling me back! (I kinda don’t trust the installer because he told me the padding could be installed either way; and he said the person who had done the measurements – sent by the store! – did them wrong and if the carpet had been pre-cut, as I requested and the salesman promised, it would have “looked terrible” – plus of course he was hours late and didn’t finish the job, and left a huge mess in my yard and driveway where he cut the carpet.)

    Second: my trusty Dyson “animal” vac (great for dog and cat hair!) gets lost in the new carpet, Karastan (Embraceable – 80 oz) even though it says it has “automatic carpet height adjustment”. I can’t push it more than a few feet. Any suggestions for a new vacuum? I know you’re not the vacuum girl but would appreciate any suggestions!

    Beth O.

  321. Posted by InNeedofHelp! on August 29, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    Hi CG,

    Thought you might be able to help me. We are looking at carpet for our new house and we came across the Mohawk SmartStrand color avenger at our neighborhood carpet store. They said they stock this so it is priced very well. This seems like a nice carpet but I have googled every way I can and cannot get the specs for this color. Any thoughts on where I can find it besides going back to the carpet store for a third time?

  322. Carpet Gal,
    I have been reading all of your entries and now I am more confused than ever. We are undergoing a major remodel/addition and ended up having to replace all of our carpeting upstairs due to the drywallers getting drywall mud all over the existing carpet. I have nothing but good things about the Smartstrand line of carpeting so we decided to go with it. I have presently been given a quote of $35.08 for the Intelligent Style of carpeting in the color “Paper Moon”. The carpet company is saying that it has a weight of 45 oz., but as I read the other comments, the weight is much higher. The next step up is the Supreme Intelligent Actionback at $46.79 with a 56 oz. weight. We do have two cats so I am going with the 10lb pad, but we are empty nesters with our 4 children only coming home during the summer and at holidays. I am not sure what one we should go with since there is quite a price jump. I really do not want to have to replace our carpeting again for as long a time as possible. Which do you thing would be the best to go with and is this a good price?

    Thanks so much for your help,

  323. Posted by Lisa on September 8, 2011 at 3:32 pm

    Hi CarpetGirl,

    Hope you can help with the following…
    We are looking at several Karastan options including Brescia,Rossana,Trastevere (is this one a frieze?) and Vico Lake…all Smartstrand, I believe.
    Also, another pattern named ‘Ivanov’.

    We are doing 2 flights of stairs (@ 26 steps-3 storey home) and a master bedroom. No children, but perhaps another puppy. (just lost our 14yrd old Lab a month ago:(

    Overall concerns are stains as we’d be choosing a light color (ie. Legacy, or in Ivanov-Eggshell) and wearability on stairs. Are we better off with a flat/berber style for stairs than a higher pile saxony or frieze? (we want same carpet on stairs & in bdrm)
    Prefer the feel of a thicker pile carpet…but also worried about how it looks on stairs vs shorted pile/berber. Just vey unfamiliar with all of this and overwhelmed with options! Need to make a decision soon as old carpet being ripped out shortly.

    Thanks so much for any help!!

  324. Posted by Lisa on September 11, 2011 at 3:27 am

    Hi Carpet Girl,

    Further to my my questions above, I now have a couple more! I visited another store today and saw another karastan collection (Smartstrand-Sorono on colorwall)

    The textures looked pretty similiar to the names I mentioned above…
    Could you please tell me if these Karastan carpets are the same and also, the weight
    >Is Brescia same as Bella Villetta?-Initially, leaned to this one
    >Is Vico Lake same as Ventian Romance?
    >Is Trastevere same as Tuscan Nights? Now, leaning toward this one

    We’ve now ruled out Rossana/Ivanov…want more of a plush feel. Am thinking that Brescia would show footprints more than Trastevere/Tuscan Nights so latter may be better.

    Also, we could consider Mohawk Sheer Ecstasy…not sure if we looked at Superior style?? So confused…
    If I recall correctly, there was very little price difference so which would be best? Or, are the 2 (ie Tuscan Nights and Sheer Ecstasy) quite comparable…again, staining a key concern. (when it comes time for a new puppy:)
    Salesperson also tried to get us to look at Shaw Anso (??), but I prefer the Smartstand! I think he just brought me that direction given the light off-white/cream shades I was looking for…

    Any help appreciated!!

  325. Posted by CarpetGirl on September 20, 2011 at 12:29 pm


    Unfortunately I do not have any info on HD styles. Sorry…

  326. Posted by CarpetGirl on September 20, 2011 at 12:32 pm


    Loops and pet nails are not a good combination! The chances of snagging is very high!

    The twist level is not a concern because it is a loop…only worry about twist levels with cut piles.

    I can see the logic in the seam comment but if the overall room I not high traffic it seems like overkill to me.


  327. Posted by CarpetGirl on September 20, 2011 at 12:38 pm


    Sheer is 75 ounces…mode is 60. I am unsure about regency. It is very hard for me to know if pricing is good or not given all the variables. I will say that I would go back to the store with sheer and ask to see a slightly lighter style..then compare the pricing. I suspect they will be lower given the quote on sheer.


  328. Posted by CarpetGirl on September 20, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    Beth O.-

    I suspect I am way late for this reply, sorry. Carpets are typically stretched onsite and should be done with a power stretcher in rooms…device that has a very long handle and can reach across a room. If there is a huge difference in temp between your home and the garage, there could be issues, but doubtful for stairs since there is little carpet being used there.

    On vacuums….you need one you can adjust the height yourself. I have heard quite a few comments about dyson and the self adjusting feature just not being good enough.


  329. Posted by CarpetGirl on September 20, 2011 at 12:49 pm


    Must be a private store name. I have no info on it either. Sorry…


  330. Posted by CarpetGirl on September 20, 2011 at 1:20 pm


    IS is 60 ounces…I see a supreme intellect at 75 ounces. Could that be the style you meant? Given your living situation, I can’t see a reason for you to jump to the 75 either.


  331. Posted by CarpetGirl on September 20, 2011 at 1:46 pm

    Lisa D.,

    The styles you listed are the same. Brescia is a 65 oz saxony, so very plush. Vico is a 65 oz texture. Trastevere is an 80 oz texture. Sheer is a 75 oz texture.

    All will be great for staining issues. No problem there. There is not a huge difference between sheer and tras…I doubt you could tell frankly. As for stairs…roll the sample almost folding it. That is how it will look on your stairs. You decide which you prefer for that.

    I am not a huge saxony fan…I think it is too traditional for my tastes…but that is me. You would be served very well by any of these carpets.


  332. Posted by Lisa on September 20, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    Thank you so much!
    We’re still struggling to decide.Problem is we like a plush carpet like Sheer or Trastevere for the bedroom, but prefer a lower pile such as Karastan Rossana on the stairs. The master bedroom is the only room on the 3rd floor with stairs leading to a small landing & into the bedroom.

    Would it be really odd to have patterned/low pile Rossana on stairs and different texture (Sheer or Trastevere) in the bedroom? All the same color of course. (Ie Legacy)

    Thanks again for all of your help:)

  333. Posted by CarpetGirl on September 20, 2011 at 2:17 pm


    It is perfectly fine to mix and match carpets. Talk to your installer/dealer about the best way to do it. Likely some kind of transition piece at the doorway.


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